did my GSA Morgan dollar get switched with a different coin

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by _SORROW_, Jul 21, 2011.

  1. _SORROW_

    _SORROW_ New Member

    I just sold a GSA 1882 morgan Dollar to a ebay coin dealer who promptly asked to return it for marks he said he didnt notice how can i tell if he switched the coin out ? :axemeethead:

    i saw marks that i as well dont recall being on the coin and a little suspicous of this return and the fact that all the seller sells is gsa morgans what do i look for on the plastic coin holder to see if its been tampered with ? thanks !
     
    _SORROW_, Jul 21, 2011
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  3. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Not saying he did but if he switched coins he would of just given you a different coin and holder. Your pictures from your auction to see if its a different coin
     
    KoinJester, Jul 21, 2011
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  4. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Bag marks are like a fingerprint. No two coins will have identical bag marks. Compare the marks on the coin you sold (using photos, of course) to the marks on the coin you received back. Simple as that.
     
    Hobo, Jul 21, 2011
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  5. _SORROW_

    _SORROW_ New Member

    the bag marks on her face are the same or similar they look stronger than what i remember but there's one smudge looking mark near the back of the cap or bonnet that looks different i dont recall being there thanks for your help i was wondering if the case would show anything that would give me any ideas if it ha been opened
     
    _SORROW_, Jul 22, 2011
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  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You'd think so. But, if you took 3 pictures of the same coin, each time changing the angle and/or the lighting just a little bit, on each of those pictures you will see marks that are not visible in the other pictures - and vice versa.

    To date there has never been even 1 proven case where a major TPG has switched coins on a submitter - ever.
     
    GDJMSP, Jul 22, 2011
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  7. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    True enough, Doug. But if you have one or more good photos of the coin AND the coin in hand you should be able to determine whether the coin in hand is the same coin in the photo (by tipping and turning the coin and looking for bag marks and other identifiers that are visible in the photos).

    Who said anything about a TPG switching out coins? The OP is concerned that a DEALER may have switched coins on her, not a TPG.

     
    Hobo, Jul 22, 2011
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  8. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    One of the pitfalls of selling on ebay is getting a returned coin and in this case a GSA. :rollling: I really doubt someone would buy a coin to take and replace the coin, a GSA or otherwise. I don't think the buyer switched the coin but if you're convinced, then go thru the guy's feedback and see if you see any other times he did it. If you don't find anything, then refund the dude's money and move on. :thumb:
     
    fretboard, Jul 22, 2011
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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    My mistake, I misunderstood his/her comment.
     
    GDJMSP, Jul 22, 2011
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