Deeply disturbing

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by zaneman, Dec 7, 2008.

  1. zaneman

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  3. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    time to put on your blue cape and buy them all witht he superzaneman account
     
  4. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    looks too good.
     
  5. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    Please enlighten me. I looked at the 14-d dime. Looks cleaned and has some pitting to me. Looking to learn for myself on counterfeit identification. Thanks.
     
  6. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    most looked cleaned to me.
     
  7. mgChevelle

    mgChevelle AMERICAN

    now I'm no genieus, but something suspicious is going on here. I agree, it definintley looks too good.
     
  8. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I'm looking at the 1875 Seated Lib Dime. One thing that looks suspicious (beyond the fact the coin looks "too good") is the finning on the obverse from about 11:00 to about 4:00. (Finning is the thin raised metal along the outside of the rim. Finning is created when metal from the planchet flows into the small gap between the die and the collar when the coin is struck. While finning can occur in Business Strikes finning is more common in Proof coins because they are struck twice with higher pressure than Business Strikes. Counterfeiters sometimes compensate for weak details in their dies by striking their fake coins using higher pressure to bring out more details in their coins. This higher pressure can cause finning.

    Finning alone is not enough to label this coin a counterfeit but it raises a red flag. But another thing also makes me suspicious. The ribbon on the shield should read LIBERTY but I can't make out any letters at all. The "writing" looks like gibberish. I don't like the looks of this coin at all.
     

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  9. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    I embossed it in Photoshop

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    looks like it does say Liberty.

    but you should have to use a photo-manipulation program to tell.
     
  10. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    9/10 coins with finning are fake i have seen so many soverigns that were like that one even had i love mommy on the rim. you can laugh about it if you like
     
  11. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    not to mention that the poor fellow had lost his life savings buying those 6 gold coins that were fake. sadly a lot of people dont have a lot
     
  12. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    That's my point - for Business Strikes, not Proofs.
     
  13. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Thanks, Mag. I wondered if it was something in the photo.
     
  14. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    whatever happened to the green man
     
  15. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I'll post a link to these auctions on the CFe group for some other input.
     
  16. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    :confused:
     
  17. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    Hobo's previous avatar, I believe.
     
  18. Coinfreak~24

    Coinfreak~24 Active Member

    wow maybe i should bid on some...
     
  19. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    Thanks 4 the info on finning.
     
  20. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    The OP Seller is known for polishing his coins and that is what makes them look weird. :kewl: I get his weekly newsletter so I see his stuff every week and it's always the same polished stuff. I can't remember what I've bought from him but it wasn't silver, it was copper, I just can't remember what it was. :goofer:

    So I believe his stuff is authentic but highly polished. :whistle:

    Ribbit :)
     
  21. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Tis death to counterfeit

    Are there laws enabling State & Federal prosecution of people that sell counterfeit US money and consummate their business through the mails?

    collect89
     
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