Decentius

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  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    After about a 2-month drought, I finally have a new coin to share.

    An Æ of Decentius.

    Despite the heavy patina, it's still a pretty nice coin compared to an old Decentius I had many years ago.

    Share your coins of this footnote in Roman history, Decentius.

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    Decentius (351 - 353 A.D.)
    Æ Centenionalis
    O: D N DECENTIVS NOB CAES, cuirassed bust right.
    R: VICTORIAE DD NN AVG ET CAE, two Victories standing facing one another,
    holding between them a wreath inscribed VOT / V / MVLT / X SV/RSLG
    4.69g
    22mm
    Lugdunum (Lyons) Mint
    RIC VIII 137; Bastien 177; LRBC 228
     
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  3. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Decentius as Caesar

    Obv:- DN DECENTIVS NOB CAES; Cuirassed bust facing right.
    Rev:- SALVS DD NN AVG ET CAES; Large Chi-Rho flanked by A and W
    Minted in Lugdunum (//?SLG)

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  4. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Not the most interesting of all for sure. His coins aren't so common though

    Decentius :
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    And brother Magnentius :
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  5. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

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    There are 3 different types for this reverse:

    1) the vota wreath and the shield are supported on a column.

    2) there is no column.

    3) the vota wreath is surmounted by a Chistogram.
     
  6. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Decentius Caesar

    Type: Bronze AE2

    Weight: 5.39 g

    Diameter: 24.00 mm

    Obverse: DN DECENTIVS CAESAR, bareheaded cuirassed bust of Decentius right

    Reverse: VICTORIAE DD NN AVG ET CAE, two Victories holding shield inscribed VOT / V / MVLT X

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  7. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I have only this one:
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    Decentius Æ Centenionalis
    (351-352 A.D.)
    Lugdunum (Lyons) Mint

    DN DECENTIVS NO[B CA]ES, bare-headed, cuirassed bust right / VICTORIAE DD NN AVG [ET CAE], two Victories standing with wreath with VOT V MVLT X in four lines; SP//RSLG.
    RIC Lyons 137; Bastien 177.
    (4.83 grams / 20 mm)
     
  8. Archeocultura

    Archeocultura Well-Known Member

    The only one, but I don't collect this era.. VIII Rome Decentius Vict DD 1300183.jpg
     
  9. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Coingrats Matt! 2 months is a looooong time.
    I used to think of them as bad guys. But now, with all I know about Constantine and his sons (the ones he didn't murder), the more I wish they had upset the apple cart.
    How different would history by if they'd killed the rest of Constantine's line?
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  10. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    here's my modified Decentius from Lyons

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  11. John Wright

    John Wright Well-Known Member

    Since I only collect the larger Roman bronzes I have only a single Decentius. I found this one listed in some sale (I can't find the catalog) back in the early 1930's, then in a NAC sale in 2007. I bought it from Harlan Berk in 2009 -- a medallion of 17.2gm, 33mm diameter . It's the only medallion I've seen for him. Decentius reigned for 3 years from AD350 to AD353 (ages 45-48) and committed suicide on learning of the death of Magnentius. 48----Decentius Md 17'2  8645   Ge5 (=NAC 12000).jpg
     
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  12. John Wright

    John Wright Well-Known Member

    LOVE it! Looks like what in earlier times would be a 'Damnatio'.
     
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  13. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    i haven't Decentius yet(he is on the list!)..but i can offer his brother, Magentius Magnentius maiorina 001.JPG Magnentius maiorina 003.JPG
     
  14. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...right..i started out getting LRB's of those "Christians"....and learned how ignorant i was on that subject (not that i'm too overly educated even now :p)...
     
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  15. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Decentius is usually pretty expensive for me. I have a Magnentius I got for like $7.

    I sacrificed the obv for the rev. Was it worth it?
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  16. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    On the other side of the coin, this one never had a chance to begin with.
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  17. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Amazing! Wow.... great coi... medallion!
     
  18. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    This is the listing picture of my lone Decentius example. I need to take my own photo because the actual color of the patina is nicely chocolate brown.
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    Decentius, Arles mint, 351-352 AD, AE Maiorina
    Obv.: Draped, cuirassed bust right, A in left field. DN DECENTIVS CAESAR B
    Rev.: Two Victories, facing each other, holding wreath inscribed VOT/ V/ MVLT/ X, Chi-Rho above shield, I below shield; VICTORIAE DD NN AVG ET CAE, ex.: SAR
    Diam.: 22 mm. Weight: 4.4 gr.
    Attrib.: RIC VIII 185
     
  19. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Far as I’m able to find, there’s a single extant bust of Magnentius, and he looks just about what you’d expect based on the coins
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  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    My most attractive Decentius is from Arles and has contrast from sand.
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    Unless you prefer the plain brown wrapper Trier.....
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    However by far the most interesting slightly related coin is this barbarous falling horseman. The ID of Decentius rather than Magnentius is very questionable but, counting the bumps, there is one too few letters to be Magnentius. When dealing with barbarous coins we can not allow little things like not being known to exist bother us. Perhaps the intent was MAGENTIUS which is supported by the AVG at the end (assuming that detail after the G is part of the shoulder). Anything goes with these. I suspect the mintmark was intended to be TRS partly because more barbarous coins of this period copied Trier but again any guess is as good as another. It certainly would be nice to find another coin from these dies that might make different letters clear but I have not seen one. They say that there is nothing more common than a rare ancient coin but 'unique' (strict use of the term - only one of its kind) barbarous coins are as common as ones known from multiple examples.
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  21. troutrus

    troutrus Active Member

    I purchased one that shipped ex Spain ~ one month ago. Apparently being held hostage by USPS. Hope to receive it some day.
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