MS 64 I'm guessing this is the bulk version? For those it seems like the grade ends up being MS 63 or 64. For the high grade version, I pretty much always see MS 69 (maybe an occasional 68 if there is some flaw; MS 70 is said to not be given at all for these overstrikes by Anacs).
Generally yea, a lot of people just send them in his flips. Theoretically you could maybe pull a better grade from a bulk one but I kind of doubt it.
It’s pretty much like @baseball21 said. They theoretically know, but aren’t often forced to make a judgement call since people send in the Carr flip (I did the one time I submitted some Carr items).
Does anyone else have a Graded O/S, for comparison? To possibly help discern there grading tier for these Tokens, I am with @Rick Stachowski It would be nice to have a reference for them.
I have the high-grade proof-like cameo version. Graded PL MS 69 DCAM. If you like, I can easily post photos. But it's not an apples-to-apples comparison, so probably not much help. BTW, do you know if yours is a bulk-handled version? Or high-grade (MS 67+)?
Definitely a bulk handled.I didn't doubt it, seems to me that a 64 is closer to a 68 grade, if the Bulk handled coins top out at 65.