Canon to the right of them, canon to the left of them, canon in front of them, volleyed and thundered. Stormed at with shot and shell, bloody they rode and well, into the jaws of death, into the mouth of Hell, rode the six-hundred... OK, now that we have the historical perspective, what about these coins of that era? Any information would be appreciated. Thanks!
Well they are from the era, but about 25 yrs before the Charge of the Light Brigade. Russian rouble's of course, both struck in .8680 silver with an ASW of .5785 oz. The 1829 had a mintage of 1,478,000 - the 1829 a mintage of 5,510,000. Since each of the coins have been made into jewelry their numismatic value has been greatly reduced. They are probably worth about $20 each.
If they both weren't hinged, the 1837 ruble would be around 50USD and 1829 at 70USD or so. It might be around 20USD or so because the damage.
Thanks guys. I wasn't planning on selling these, but appreciating them. Besides, I doubt with the "hinges" they'd fit in your coin flips. Anyway, they were passed down, my great-great grandmother is said to have wore these. GD, I appreciate the striking and composition detail. But what Mint, and what reign? These "hinges", was this common, and how was it achieved? I also have a "wings down" 1809 version (looks like the 1829, but with the wings pointing down instead of up)...same questions on that. And the rims, what's that information about? Basically, anything else you think you can contribute that might help one better understand and appreciate these... Hey, and then they rode back. But not, not the six-hundred.
The 1809 ruble that you have is not terribly common - might go up to 50USD even if it's hinged and I am assuming it is around the same grade as the rest. Alexsander I is the reign from 1801-1825, and all the coins were minted in the Saint Petersburg Mint. Moscow Mint was just slacking off most of the time as other mints could handle the production. The hinges work similar to how you soulder tin wires in various applications, except in this case, using some silver alloy to hinge it, and hence, making it virtually impossible to remove such hinges cleanly. If you wish to read more articles about Russian coins, I have typed out some at http://www.coinpeople.com
Thx gx. I had a website about a year ago describing some of these with pics that since went off the air and I could kick myself for not copying it to WordPerfect. IIRC, however, it even went into detail about the rims, as well as the various mint designations. I appreciate this information and I'll key-word off it and see how far I can get. Thx again.
That's no problem. I can do that right now for you. Edit to say, all of the *SILVER* coins minted around that era were minted in St. Petersburg. The copper coins were minted in various other mints including St. Petersburg mint. common to all three of them is the mintmark C.||.b. which is in cyrillic, the mintmark of Saint. Petersburg. Starting with the 1809 ruble, the text at the obverse means "Russian government money". This series wasn't too popular - obviously as no one wants their money to be considered as government money. You can have the possiblity of two mintmasters there as you didn't mention it to us, either FG or MK. It was in the following year that the design was changed to "Pure Silver of 4 Zol. 21. Dolya" (Note, Zol, Dolya are the old Russian weight units) and the wings of the eagles are more elaborate and with the year at the bottom of the coin instead of the top, which is not too common as most of the time in the previous crowns, the year is usually located at the top. This was done probably because it is easier to read the text "Moneta ruble" which means "coin worth of one ruble". This design lasted a bi longer than the other series, until 1826, which was taken over by the wings down series. The wings down ironically was not too popular as the wings were rarely set downwards and hence pretty detested. The silver crown only lasted till 1830 although the gold 5 rubles had a longer life from 1817-1831 and the copper from 1830-1839. Edge type from the 1809 ruble from the other two differs in the following: 1809: Of the eighty third and one third standard 1910-1885 Sil(ver) of the 83 1/3 stardard 4zol(otniks), 82 14/25 parts Weight of all of them should be 20.73grams and of 83 and 1/3 fineness. I think that might be all of them hopefully.
WOW, THANKS!!! I'd never have found all this on the Internet (trust me, I tried). Thank you, again, very much. And PS, my 1809 is an MK... also "hinged" (I know that makes any collector cringe )...and, unfortunately, in quite poor condition.
And BTW, gx, kudos on that website you have, and the effort that obviously took! I just looked 2 pages deep, thus far, and at your [partial?] Russians collection, but it already identified some of the other foreigners I have (principally, BTW, acquired from my Aunt, who worked for the Atomic Energy Commission, post WWII, and quite literally travelled all over the planet). Needless to say, your website is now at the top of my bookmarks under World Coins!
Thx again. And I'll be posting more pics, from time to time, when I get the chance, you bet! But see, you're already answering a lot of my questions (the preliminary ones, at least) just on the effort you put into that website (trust me!).
Oh no, it's definately NOT my site, but the articles that I have typed out there is definately what I typed out, most likely when I am half awake and tired and hence some awkward english structure at times. In here, you should be able to find most of my Russian coin collection in here: http://www.omnicoin.com/user_view.aspx?id=gxseries. I believe I still have another 100+ Soviet coins to go, but I cannot be bothered at the moment.
Well then it's a very cool site for photo-identifying world coins, and thanks for linking to it. These are some fine collections, I'll say that (yours included!).
