Cud orchips

Just a quick question. Knowing a cud is always from the rim of the coin I was wondering if several what looks like die chips on the rim of the coin would be considered small cuds. I have a cent that has perhaps 5 "chips" on the rim extending into the field. As I was going to label the coin I didn't know how to classify it.

 

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are they chips or raised bumps? if they are chips, then they are classified simply as die chips.

 

They are raised bumps which would occur if the die had small holes in it. Sometimes if not most of the times I'm not too clear I guess. Let me put it this way; if they were larger in the same area I would know that they were cuds but being small just a bit larger than a period (.) I didn't know how to classify them.

 

A "CUD" is when part of the die at the rim has broken away.

"Bumps" are just that, bumps.

IMO, you'd be stretching it very thin to call bumps "small cuds".

 

First let me say that I agree with you but then just for a matter of discussion in a very strict sense of description it could be called a cud IMHO. According to The Error Coin Encyclopedia a cud is a die failure occurring at the rim of the die and the failure "will start at the rim at some point and extend inward on the coin's surface, and then return to the rim at another point." It doesn't mention what size the failure should be. The "chips" I see meet this criteria in a strict sense. I personally would not attempt to represent this coin as a cud error but I do enjoy discussing such topics as a part of my learning curve. IMO a cud would be a somewhat dramatic die break but I am nitpicking the subject.

I have enjoyed your input 19Lyds and hopefully will have other topics to quibble ( probably the wrong word) about.

 

I hate to throw a monkey wrench in the works, but here is PCGS's definition of "CUD";

Notice that there is no mention of the rim. FWIW, they do not define "chip" or "raised bumps".

 

I've never seen a monkey wrench so I wouldn't know it if I saw it. Arnold Margolis in his book The Error Coin Encyclopedia defining a cud on page 243 says " The cud error will always occur starting at the rim at some point, and extend on the coin's surface, and then return to the rim at another point." But I am being redundant aren't I?

 

The Margolis definition includes the rim while the PCGS definition "implies" the rim. How else could there be a "complete break" if not from rim to rim?