I highly enjoy recordkeeping and anaylisis of statistics. I would like to start doing numismatic research and a part of that is getting the opinions of CT Users. I may ask polls in certain topic related threads,or PM certain users for research. This is completly voluntary and I AM MAKING NO PROFIT OR RECOGNITION FOR THIS WORK. I had to make that clear due to some accusations in the past. I will always post a PDF link under the certain topic of any significant findings and if you can not find it please feel free to PM me. This informational note will be at the beginning of each thread I create to garuntee no misunderstandings will occur. Thank you for your cooporation. Please share or inform other users of this so I can collect the most wide range of opinions. EDIT: YOUR PRIVATE INFO IS NOT RECORDED AND POLL VOTES ARE ANONYMOUS My first reasearch topic is Coin market and the finacial system. In previous years legislations have blamed the coin collecting for issues with the economy. Are they right Question- HOW MAJOR OF AN IMPACT DOES NUMISMATICS MAKE ON FINACIAL SYSTEMS? Please explain your opinion below
Assuming you are not using any names associated with this kind of polling, I'm good with it. If so please mention this and I will add some value to it hopefully.
To answer your question a lot really depends on how you are choosing to define things, ie: economy and financial systems. For example, when I think of what economy means to me, it's the basic economic health of the entire country taken as a whole. With that understanding, numismatics has a very minor impact. Yes, numismatics contributes to the economy in that it provides jobs, income for businesses, income for the mint, income for airlines, hotels, convention centers, etc etc. But all of it combined is but a drop in the bucket compared to the entire US economy. But when I think of financial systems, that's an entirely different story. For example, a financial system, to me, is capitalism. Communism would be another financial system. My point being that the economy and our financial system here in this country are two entirely different things. While your question seems to lump them into being the same thing. In any event, numismatics has a very minor effect on both of them. As for this particular comment - In previous years legislations have blamed the coin collecting for issues with the economy. Are they right No, they were not right. The only time I aware of where coin collecting was blamed for anything was in the 1960's when coin collectors were blamed for the current shortage of coins in the country. But that simply wasn't true. The coin shortage did exist, but it existed for only one reason. It existed because of all the talk prior to, during, and after the legislation that put an end of silver being used in our coins. Pretty much everybody in the country knew this was going to happen - long before it did happen. As a result of that knowledge, just about everybody started hoarding all the silver coins sure that they were going to make a fortune on the deal. Coin collectors didn't cause the coin shortage - the rest of the US population did.
I voted minor impact. In the overall scheme of such a massive economy as we have, while numismatics adds to the economy, it has little impact. But it can be a double edged sword. If someone uses only discretionary money to finance their hobby, all is well. If someone who does little research and takes on a lot of debt buying coins or P.M.'s, using rent, mortgage, utilities money or maxes out a credit card/s not knowing what they are getting into, then it makes a negative impact on the economy. Maybe not a huge impact but an impact nonetheless. Especially if they default on credit cards or heaven forbid, lose their home over it (and it has happened as easily as getting carried away in Vegas).
You mean I can max out my credit cards on gold, hide it away and then declare bankruptcy? I cannot believe anyone would ever do that.
The short of it is- Filing for bankruptcy would actually squash all of your debt back then. Almost like getting a mulligan
Are you sure about the date, Heavy? I could swear it was much more recent than that, but bankruptcy is an, ahem, pleasure I haven't had the, well, pleasure of experiencing nor do I stay up on such things.
Actually that date was wrong, im not even sure what date it happened now that i think about it. I believe Bush was in office. Im no lawyer but i do have a buddy who is. Thats where i got my info from. In other words, at one point in time you could file bankruptcy and get off much easier than the way things are nowadays.
Reading the comments by GDJMSP and Tommy03, my vote was influenced from No Impact to Minor Impact. Wouldn't it skew your metrics if others are also influenced? I didn't vote yet.
I was thinking it was around 2006 or so and is why I asked. This would mesh with the Bush thing too. No biggie either way.