I've just purchased these and has opened up Pandoras box of intrigue regarding what exactly happened 7th century and after. Would I be right in thinking most of these are 7TH Century Pseudo Arab/Byzantine coins? One lot was listed as crusades. Many thanks for any help on this topic. Very interested in the history any anymore info. James
Those ARE COOL! Yes, I believe most, if not all are Arab imitations, at least most of the larger folles. I'm not sure about the smaller ones though they probably are as well. I only just really started studying Byzantine coins myself so my information is subject to change haha.
All coins from the smaller image are Crusader, if you need help iding any just post individual images here. But they are fun to id by yourself, enjoy.
As @seth77 said, the smaller images are Crusader. Also from myself, I'm pretty sure that most of the larger folles are "Arab Byzantine" namely from Hims or Homs in Syria (Emesa). All these coins are considered as almost rare. Try to identify each of the Crusader coins, for instance what king in what century or what kingdom. They are valuable. Good luck . It's a great start..
I will try, first thing is knowing where to start, thanks for suggestions. I will post individuals up at some point if i get stuck. Also willing to sell a few. thank you
If you need a nudge in the right direction for the Crusaders, the denomination is conventionally called follis, like the Byzantine pre-reform coinage that they are trying to emulate. Good luck!
I'm with FF2: Those are cool! As you ID, watch for bilingual legends where the same thing is repeated on the coin. Good group. We see many worse examples sold as individuals. I have only one.
I am not all that familiar with the coinage of the Middle East circa the Crusades, but I am wondering if some might be an original issue by a Christian state, Byzantines or Crusaders as several have the Christian cross on them. I had thought that when issued by an Islamic state the cross would have been removed or modified into something else.
Caffers won these in [an] auction, so he should already know that top coins are Arab-Byzantine and the bottom are crusaders. Do you need more direction than that?
FitzNigel yes thats why I posted I was looking for a bit more direction. I'm not sure why you feel the need to tell everyone where I got them from.....and to be so blunt about it? Thanks to the other members for their help.
My apologies caffers - I didn’t mean to offend. All of the responses you were receiving were in the title of the lots, so I was attempting to point out that these responses were not useful. so, for more help, I would focus on Antioch for the crusader coins. I’m not sure anymore focus is needed for the Arab-Byzantine coins. I’m not sure if what resources are available for these, but I don’t think there is too wide of a variety.
