CRAZY NEW 1998 cent error!!?? (Good photos)

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Bryant M, Feb 15, 2015.

  1. Bryant M

    Bryant M Active Member

    The 3 long cracks do not seem like PMD the copper coating is filled in with it and you can still see the letters in the cracks also seems like multiple clashes and possibly doubling I can not find any info about anything like this so I need your help. Hope the photos are alot better. I cant tell you were to look because there is stuff everywhere.
     

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  3. Bryant M

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    Last of pics
     

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  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Damage from wire cutters.
     
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  5. StrikeOutXXX

    StrikeOutXXX Member

    Post mint damage from wire cutters, sorry.
     
  6. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Start by asking yourself, 'How would this have been created by dies?' The answer is, there is no minting process which would have created this. But always start with that question in mind.
     
  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Post Mint Damage.. I agree with the others. Wire cutter, snips, some type of scissor made those 3 gouges. I don't see anything else :sorry:
     
  8. Bryant M

    Bryant M Active Member

    No it is filled in the middle of the gouge and if was snipped it would be sharp and zink showing
     
  9. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Just like the others have said, this was done by wire cutters. This is where an understanding of the minting process helps tremendously. You then understand what could and what couldn't happen during minting.
     
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  10. Bryant M

    Bryant M Active Member

    They also are about the same length ill take a picture of the edge
     
  11. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Not true. Try the experiment yourself. Wire cutters aren't sharp like scissors.
     
  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    It is not fully snipped and that is why you don't see the inner part of the cent. It was just pressed hard enough to cause the gouge.. sorry buddy not an error.
     
  13. eddio

    eddio Well-Known Member

    not sure about wire cutters it looks pretty clean,can be something else
     
  14. Bryant M

    Bryant M Active Member

    Check out these photos focus on the gouge its to smooth to be a cut
     

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  15. Bryant M

    Bryant M Active Member

    Lost of new photos
     

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  16. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    And pressed.. as in a cutter or snip or vise pressing hard enough to create the PMD. I have made these myself over the years fooling around trying to make weird marks on coins. There were times that the coin damage I created looked just like your coin.
     
  17. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Bryant, love the enthusiasm man, but the coin is damaged. Be glad it isn't a wide AM & roll it. Damage aside, where are the clashes and the doubling?
     
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  18. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Think about it carefully.. When a planchet goes between the hammer and the anvil there needs to be some kind of foreign object that enters at the same time to create some kind of mint error such as a struck through. Do you really think some weird 3 prong item landed on both sides of the planchet to create these gouges. Impossible! Look at this diagram so you can understand better.
    HammerAnvil.JPG
     
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  19. HoosierDaddy

    HoosierDaddy Active Member

    You're a millionaire! Congrats!
     
  20. oi!

    oi! Member

    This is definitely PMD but I'm having a fun time envisioning what did it. The obverse marks start wide at the edge and get thinner as they move inward. That's consistent with a tool like tin snips or wire cutters or anything else that works like scissors.
    But then the reverse marks don't show that. They start wide and stay wide (for the most part). And that wouldn't be anything like a scissor type tool. Even if the bottom arm of the scissor tool was flat, I still don't think enough force could be applied for the reverse marks to be that pronounced all the way to the center of the coin.
    I'm thinking a vice. Cool to look at though.
     
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  21. oi!

    oi! Member

    good job on the photos by the way
     
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