Cracked die?

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  1. gixxxer

    gixxxer Who Is John Galt**

    While searching through a roll, I found this dime. Is it a die crack, or something else?
     

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  3. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    It looks like a die crack. Possibly clading peeling off?
     
  4. grnwavdav

    grnwavdav Numismatic Addict

    If it's raised, which it looks like to me, than that's an awesome "rim to rim" die crack. Very cool!!! Nice Find!

    Oh Yeah, P.S.
    Great pictures.
     
  5. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    could be a retained die break don't think that's a die crack to thick in appearence it's extending from north to south rim to rim. Retained die break that;s what it is an they bring a nice preieum when there from rim to rim.

    Jazzcoins Joe:)
     
  6. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I have a question is it peeling of the plancet?

    Jazzcoins Joe
     
  7. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    That is a really cool find!!!
     
  8. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    The more i look at it i think it is a fake the coin was tampered with.

    Jazzcoins Jooe
     
  9. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    IMHO, it is not a Die Crack! It is a complete Die Break (failure) and one side of the Die somewhat separated, thus the raised portion and the lower portion on the coin. I hope Mike shows up and confirms or dispells my belief!


    Frank
     
  10. bizzybill2000

    bizzybill2000 Senior Member

    Is it a 2007? there have been more then one reported for that year.
    (Shattered Die), and they do bring good money.
    Bill :)
     
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  12. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    :pencil::pencil::pencil:
     
  13. gixxxer

    gixxxer Who Is John Galt**

    FreakyGarrettC - The cladding isn't peeling off. That's what made me wonder what it was though. Looking at it through my loupe, it looks like a lamination error on Roosevelt's face. But, near the rim it looks more like a cracked die to me.

    grnwavdav - The crack(?) is raised, and thank you for the compliment on the pics:). Here's another one (or two)....

    jazzcoins - What is a retained die break? And it is thick, ecspecially from the neck to just above the eye. Also, why do you suspect that it is fake?

    huntsman53 - I'm still learning, and wouldn't have a clue as to what to look for, if someone were to say "...a complete die break..." But, what you've said makes sense to me with this coin.

    Thank y'all for the input!:bow:
     

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  14. gixxxer

    gixxxer Who Is John Galt**

    Thanks for the input bizzybill2000. It looks like a 2007, but it's hard to tell for sure.

    jazzcoins - Please... No dueling in my post... I don't want blood on my coins! :eek::)
     
  15. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    gixxxer,

    The Obverse of your' coin is generally the same as the Reverse of the Quarter in the Thread linked below! Scroll down Page 2 to read what Mike Diamond has to say about the Reverse of the coin.

    http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=11502


    Frank
     
  16. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    It sure looks like a major die break to me...Nice coin!

    I've not found one that good in all my years of searching:)

    Super!!

    Have Fun,
    Bill
     
  17. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Great find!

    Wow, now I have to start searching dimes!
     
  18. bizzybill2000

    bizzybill2000 Senior Member

    That is a great find, there are very few and yours is one of the better.
    BILL :)
     
  19. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    The definetion of a retained raise die break or cud is. A cud appears as a raised area on a coin resembling as a blob or extra metal the effects of a die failure were part of the die failure has become damaged and fallen away. A retained die break or cud forms on a coin when the die has broken rim to rim but the damaged has not yet falling away I hope this heklps you to understand the term.

    Jazzcoins Joe:cool:
     
  20. gixxxer

    gixxxer Who Is John Galt**

    Yes it does, I think...
    Would it be safe to say that if/when the damaged part of the die fell away, you would end up with a Dime that had a cud covering half of the obverse? Or would you end up with a mangled coin?
    With my Dime, all of the area to the East of the crack is the higher area; is that the part of the die that has broken, and would have eventually fallen out?
    Thanks for the knowledge Jazzcoins Joe! :bow:
     
  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Yes that is a retained cud. The die has cracked all the way across and one side has broken away from the shank of the die and shifted downward but has not fallen away yet so it is still impressing its design into the coin. Once the broken piece of the die falls away half of the coin obverse will be a featureless cud.
     
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