Couple of quarters, tried valiantly to show MD

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Samisue, May 22, 2013.

  1. Samisue

    Samisue New Member

    squished double.jpg filled D.jpg machine doubling2.jpg squished double.jpg 2013-05-22 22.10.04-1.jpg Hmmmm...not sure this worked...looking at the U N E and D, also a ??filled mint mark??
     
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  3. Samisue

    Samisue New Member

    I am seeing maching doubling on said letters from above. On the two pictures in this post, I don't know for sure what kind of doubling this is :D more doubling.jpg more doubling2.jpg
     
  4. 1amthe1

    1amthe1 Country Boy

  5. Samisue

    Samisue New Member

    Ok, so, In my guestimation, I'm going to venture to say, the first posts quarter is a valid DD and the second posts quarter is a MD. Would you concur? Now, as for the squished IN GOD WE TRUST and the filled in D mint mark, I see no doubling lines what so ever, however, that does not necessarily mean they are PMD, correct?
     
  6. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Don't think it is a doubled die. Looks more like die deterioration.
    Keep up the hunt!
     
  7. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Each week there finding more ddo and ddr in the state quarter series .
    My baseball buddy John Wexler has the most up to date listing.
    MD?? Photo looks like it could be. But in hand with a lop I may have a different answer.
    Here a link to John Wexler list of known Doubled dies.
    http://doubleddie.com/
     
  8. Samisue

    Samisue New Member

    Thank you for the links 1amthe1 and jello :hail: They were extremely helpful! :thumb: So, the more I read, the more I feel like in genereal, Genuine Doubled Dies are rarer than people think. A great percentage of the time, it's another form, such as die deterioration or maching doubling, etc. Also, I see notching on the E in the quarter from the first post, which is why I concluded possible doubling. But, cannot yet decide if the doubling is consistant direction. Agreed they are likely die deterioration and mechanical doubling though. Still perplexed what happened with the IN GOD WE TRUST and filled in D though...would you say the same, for those as well?
     
  9. 1amthe1

    1amthe1 Country Boy

    I am not very familiar with "filled Mint Marks" on quarters. I know on Lincoln Cents this is pretty common, on the ones that are early 70's. They don't carry a premium, and I'm not sure if they are even acknowledged as a variety. I always assumed....I HATE USING THAT WORD... that they were some kind of RPM ( repunched mint mark ). Since yours is a quarter it may be a RPM, or possibly even a die cud of some sort. Hope for the latter, because I have seen cuds go for a premium. For starters I would take a look at the same link we gave you and investigate cuds a little better.
     
  10. Samisue

    Samisue New Member

    Awesome thanks again! When I got back into coins (had a jar I'd been saving for years, my 10 year old got it and spent them, so I was so bummed out for a long time I didn't even look) I had so much change laying around and a couple of jars of cents that I have found many many varieties and errors...so much fun! Am resisting the urge to photograph and post ALL of them! lol


    p.s. had a chance to go back to links...not finding cuds...not sure where to look :eek:
     
  11. 1amthe1

    1amthe1 Country Boy

    Post'em All.
     
  12. Samisue

    Samisue New Member

    :devil:
     
  13. 1amthe1

    1amthe1 Country Boy

    Definition: A cud is a damaged area resembling a blob on the surface of a coin which is raised above the field a little, and which obliterates the device or inscription where it appears. Cuds are the result of die cracks which have become severe, or from die chips where part of the die surface has become damaged and broken away.

    Some experts in the error-variety hobby insist that for the blob to be called a cud, the damaged part of the die must include part of the edge of the die. Although this is the purist definition, in common parlance you'll see the term "cud" used to describe the blob created by any die chip or serious die crack, regardless of its placement on the die or coin. http://coins.about.com/od/coinsglossary/g/cud_defined.htm
     
  14. 1amthe1

    1amthe1 Country Boy

    I will probably get an argument started, as to what a cud is. Most numistists say that it must be on the rim or connected to the rim in some way. However, Mike Diamond wrote this. [h=1]Retained cud diagnostics sometimes leave room for doubt[/h]
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    By Mike Diamond - Special to Coin World | 01-10-11
    Article first published in January 24, 2011, Expert Advice section of Coin World Since we can’t directly observe the condition of the die that strikes any coin with a presumed retained cud, we must admit to an element of uncertainty in all but the most severe cases
     
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