Countermarks are welcome

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  1. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    This is mine countermark: i dont know much about this coin.

    Emperor period:AUGUSTUS.
    Year:27 BC-14 AD.

    munt:Æ Sestertius
    gewicht; 33 mm , 21,8 g

    City:Rome mint.
    Struck 16 BC.

    OB Ti. Sempronius Graccus, moneyer.
    REV: Legend in three lines within oak-wreath flanked by two laurel branches

    Large S C; countermarks: radiate head right and Lunar goddess(?) standing left.

    Helios
    Early Augustan Sestertius: Radiate head of Helios r.; std. lunar deity with crescent above head
    Also referred to as a 'nailed helmet'. Sometimes this 'radiate' head is found struck twice on examples of Augustan sestertii and, occasionally, it is found paired with this standing lunar diety. This latter type should make the 'Helios' designation of the other countermark a certainty. Countermark Martini Pangerl Collection 65.

    bron info:http://www.romancoins.info/countermark-Richard-Baker.html

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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I don't have any coins with countermarks. I know Steve does. Love your example ro.
     
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  4. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    Hey bing ty for reaction, i found another one from the same type.
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  5. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    oh neat, those are some cool countermarks on that coin RO. the web page you listed is very nice, that one is in my bookmarks. if you guys don't know it, check it out.

    here is one of my given to me by a coin buddy, not the best photography on my part...

    to the left are two helmet countermarks.

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    on the reverse is a dolphin
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  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    This is a helpful resource.
     
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  7. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    SYRIA, Seleucis and Pieria. Antioch. Hadrian. Æ As
    Reference.
    BMC Galatia 296, p186; var (without countermark) McAlee 536e; for c/m: Howgego 378 ( According to Howgego, the laurel branch countermark appears as an undertype on a Bar Kochba bronze, indicating that it was applied prior to AD 132-135.)

    Obv. TP.Π . ΥΙ.ΘΝΕΡ.ΥΙω.ΤΡ.ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟCCEΒ
    Laureate and cuirassed bust right

    Rev. S • C
    H below; all within laurel wreath Countermark Laurel-branch

    15.85 gr
    27 mm
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  8. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    SYRIA Laodicea ad Mare Antoninus Pius AE 24 Thyce
    Reference.
    BMC Greek (Galatia) 74.p256 var. "Counterstrike"

    Obv. AYT KAI AI ADRI ANTWNEINOC CEB EY
    Laureate head left with countermark of laureate imperial head.

    Rev. IOVΛΙΕΩΝΤΩΝ ΚΑΙΛΑΟΔΙΚΕΩΝ (IOULIEONTON KAILAODIKEON)
    Inscription.
    ΘΟΕ (THOE)
    Bust of Tyche of Laodicea, right, wearing turreted headdress and bunches of grapes.

    8.17 gr
    24 mm
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  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    very cool example, ro1974 (oh, and others!!)

    Bing is correct ...

    => I have a few examples as well ...

    Running King (with Banker's mark)
    running man a.jpg

    Cilicia Tarsos (Radiate head of Helios countermark)
    Cilicia Tarsos countermark.jpg

    Lycia Phaselis revision of Alex III (Seleukid anchor countermark)
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    Obverse c/m (Crowned bust of Heraclius facing; to right, monogram; all within circular incuse)
    Reverse c/m (SCLs within circular incuse)

    Heraclius CM Justin I.jpg

    Kings of Bosporus
    c/m: laureate head of Septimius Severus right, within circular incuse

    Kings of Borp Eagle counterstamp.jpg

    Kings of Numidia
    counterstamp of the head of Ammon

    Kings of Numidia Micipsa.jpg

    Pamphylia Gallienus
    c/m of Є within circular incuse

    Pamphylia Gallienus.jpg

    Tiberius
    countermark of bull rushing right on Tiberius' neck
    countermark of eagle's head on bull

    Tiberius Counterstamp.jpg

    Seleukid Kingdom Antiochos !
    c/m: anchor

    Seleukid Kingdom Antiochos I.jpg

    Syracuse Heraclius c/m
    syracuse heraclius countermark.jpg
     
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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Kings of the Bosporus Sauromates II Æ26 Athena
    Date: 174-210 AD
    Size: 26.6 mm
    Weight: 9.55 grams
    Obverse: Diademed bust right
    Reverse: Athena seated left on throne, holding patera in right hand. Counterstamp of the bust of Septimius Severus
    Reference: SNG 67-68


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    ... apparently I had one more straggler
     
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  11. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    Stevex6, that is a fantastic countermark of SS!
    Here is one of my favorite countermarked coins. The stamp isn't much to look at but the history behind it is great.
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    Valerius Gratus Prutah With Countermark of Cohors II Italica

    JUDAEA, Roman Administration. Tiberius. AD 14-37. Æ Prutah (14mm, 1.72 g). Struck under Valerius Gratus, praefectus Iudaeae. Dated RY 5 (18/9 CE).
    O: Unstruck [TIB/ KAI/CAP within wreath] Round countermark, palm branch flanked by the letters C and Π.
    R: Upright palm branch; IOY ΛIA (Julia) and L Є (date, year 5 = 18/19 AD) across field.
    - Meshorer 328 var.; Hendin 1339; RPC I 4965.

    These countermarks are always applied to the edges of the coins.

    According to Lönnqvist, (New Vistas on the Countermarked Coins of the Roman Prefects of Judaea) the countermarked coins of Gratus were probably struck in Jerusalem, 36/7 CE, to endorse them as pay for the Roman soldiers. (Meshorer notes that perhaps the countermarked coins became tokens for special purposes, e.g., receipt of equipment or for services in a Roman army camp.)

    Lönnqvist also convincingly argues that the C and Π on the countermark stand for the word σπεîρα, referring to the cohort of soldiers that were apparently in Judea.

    He notes, “An interesting account in the New Testament has remained until now unverified, since the passage has not been supported by any other sources. The Act of the Apostles 10:1 mention an officer and a cohort, ‘Cornelius, a centurion of a cohort being called Italian…’.

    This unit, thus, was comprised of Roman citizens. The passage suggests that the unit was the cohors Italica civium Romanorum, probably a detachment of one of the imperial legions stationed nearby, perhaps in Syria… I may suggest that the Italian cohort recorded in Acts is, in fact, the cohors II Italica, which, consequently, had been the detachment which applied the countermarks on the coins of the Roman prefects of Judaea… This new evidence… lends strong support to the credibility of the New Testament on this point.
     
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  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Interesting Nemo. Thanks.
     
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  13. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Chionite Huns, Tokaristan Drachm Peroz Imitation, Multiple counterstamps, c. 6-7th century AD.
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  14. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Domitian, Roman Empire (revalued under the Ostrogothic Kingdom)
    AE As/42 nummi
    Obv: CAESAR AVG F DOMITIAN COS II, laureate head left, countermark XLII (42) in left field
    Rev: VICTORIA AVGVST, Victory advancing right, standing on prow, holding wreath and palm branch, S-C across fields
    Mint: Rome (struck 73-74 AD; revalued 498-526 AD)
    Ref: RIC 677

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  15. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the reaction and the great coins:facepalm:
     
  16. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

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    new camera, making a new one
     
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  17. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I'm curious about my c/m's on Claudius. The DV is a barbarous sestertius copy accepted for circulation as a DUpondius. This is a mark you should not be able to find on a nice coin.
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    What is the meaning of AD on an as? re1040bb0177.jpg

    Nero Claudius Drusus by Claudius sestertius with Nero c/m (NCAPR).
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  18. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    Those are some fine counter marks!

    I hope to get one of my own someday.

    Thanks for sharing. :)

    Erin
     
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  19. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    VasuDeva of Zabulistan Turko-Hephthalite
    Hunnic Afghanistan after AD 685
    Afghanistan, Kabul
    AR Drachm Senmerv Crown Type. Tri-lingual.
    Nezak (Nspk) Huns Kingdom of Zabul
    Vakhu (Vasu)-Deva, Sub-ruler of Shahi Tigin
    Circa 720-738 AD
    Ref. Gobl Hunnen Em. 244
    31.8 mm x 3.28g.
    Die position=12h
    Obverse: Bust of Vasu Deva right in Persian style. Bull head above crown ; 'thunderbolt' countermark, Gold plug . Brahmi legend in field. Cursive Bactrian Greek Legend around.
    Reverse: Zoroastrian fire altar and attendants. Pahlavi legend in fields, Cursive Bactrian Greek Legend around.
    Note: Countermarked. Holed. Gold Plugged in antiquity.

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  20. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Doug: Nice coins. I would be interested ijn the answer to the "AD" and the "NCAPR" counterstamps.
     
  21. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    A recent purchase at the NYINC show: an early Elis stater (minted for the 78th ancient Olympics) with a myriad of countermarks:

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