Counterfeit 1871 Shallow N Indian Cent

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by EagleEye, Feb 25, 2009.

  1. EagleEye

    EagleEye Member

    The 1871 Shallow N is a very scarce reverse type. Many may have never even see a real one in hand, so this fake will fool just about anyone!
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250377275128
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    By itself no one would have any problem with this coins authenticity. But once you compare it with this known one, it become very worrisome.
    http://indiancent.wikispaces.com/1871+Counterfeit
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    Although one has a die break over the OF and the other doesn't, they are from the same obverse. See the mark on the neck on both! I don't think the reverse dies are the same.
     
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  3. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Wow Rick!

    good catch... that's a nasty one!!

    Is it a altered original or a die struck counterfiet???
     
  4. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

    Those are well made forgeries. But I do see some style differences in the lettering, especially on the N's reverse. Thanks for posting the info.
     
  5. EagleEye

    EagleEye Member

    Die struck from transfer dies. It looks like the die crack is real, not transferred. I notified the owner.

    The N's are shallow on some 1871's - S4 and S5.
     
  6. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    WOW! :eek:

    That would fool me in a heartbeat! :eek:

    I still have problems with it, even though I know it's a fake. :eek:dd: I guess I'll stick to my old coppers and won't be collecting IHC's. :goofer:

    Thanks for showing us this, Rick! :thumb:

    Ribbit :)
     
  7. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I see the seller has ended the listing, he's an honest person and it would have to be a good fake to fool him! Thanks for posting that, Mr. Snow!
     
  8. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    You are truly the Indian cent master. I would have bought that coin myself. And I guarantee I could sell it to at least 95 out of 100 dealers.
     
  9. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    :eek:
    I would be fooled. :eek:
     
  10. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Would of fooled me in a heartbeat , thanks for sharing .
    rzage
     
  11. DJP7x0s

    DJP7x0s Sometimes Coins Arouse Me

    Wow, you do have an Eye like an Eagle
     
  12. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    That's a very good fake. The raised line from the Indian's ear lobe to her cheek is one clue it is frake. Also, it's hard to see in the pics but I think I see a small raised dot to the right of the date and a raised line below the '8' in the date.
     
  13. DJP7x0s

    DJP7x0s Sometimes Coins Arouse Me

    I was looking at the denticles, reverse side, 2 o'clock. They just kinda look off to me. Would those be an indication???
     
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