Could this be verdigris?

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  1. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    Could this be verdigris? Can gold HAVE verdigris?
     

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes, gold can have verdigris, silver can too.

    But that is not verdigris, that is remaining dirt and grime left on the coin after it was harshly cleaned.
     
  4. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    Good news/Bad news

    ThanX, Doug.

    Guess that makes it Good news/Bad news.

    It means it may be real, but dirty gold.

    Since it is already ruined I'm thinking of dipping it.

    ThanX again.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The coin has rather severe damage IMO - I wouldn't bother.
     
  6. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    Bang!

    I didn't post a photo of my bullion in the other thread, Doug.

    I understand. This was just an extension of the same problem on a different object. :high5:
     
  7. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    No it cannot unless there's copper impurities in the metal. By definition, verdigris is a copper containing compound. Gold and silver complexes/compounds are corrosion and NOT verdigris.
     
  8. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    Exactly

    EXACTLY
    (& I normally hate that word) But many relationships ended with the GREEN showing up.
    And at first this had a green tint to it. But that could have come from what was next to it.

    And I know it has been "below the water line" more than once.
    Since it is "Damaged" I intend to ruin it until I like it.

    I noticed I can blow up the op image A LOT.

    (Dang~I cut roses down last week:eek:dd:)

     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And what US gold coin do you know of, and not the modern bullion issues, that does not contain copper ?

    Thus my answer.
     
  10. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    ...hum....book sez:.90 gold/.10 copper.......

    So I may have bad mix planchet and therefor a dirty "Golden Woody"?
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Don't misunderstand DOK , I was in no way saying that your coin had verdigris on it. I specifically said it did not.

    I was merely saying that gold coins could have, and sometimes do have, verdigris on them.
     
  12. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    We just need to be sure not to confuse people. When you make the verdigris statement, you should follow with it's due to the copper and NOT gold or silver. :D
     
  13. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    Got that the first time, but thanX. As you have often said~
    "As I have often said."

    :D

    I'm just making one last pass through before I decide on where to start. It's just that this & some stuff next to it first saw the light of day as Greenishness.

    Oil or Vinegar~ Heck, I may just chuck it into the Christmas salad and let another family member have a go at it.:bow:


    ....nawh...pshaw....I want to practice on this one myself.:eat:

    I believe you.
     
  14. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    To me that mark appears to be where someone removed solder.... The dark areas on the left center of the coin to me at least appear to be remnants of the solder that weren't removed... I would also make sense because it's in a circular pattern in the middle of the coin where I see the most solder on gold pieces... The center of the shield seems to be "missing" for a lack of words... to me also indicative of removed solder... not to mention the $2.5 is a popular size for jewelry. Just my guess.
     
  15. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    You do indeed see a lot, LD.:bow:

    It was in with jewelery in a cigar box.

    I'm going to start with plain water and hope. I'm not frustrated enough to try solder wick & heat.......yet.;)
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Fair enough :high5:
     
  17. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    looks like a foreign substance to me, not verdigris per-se.
     
  18. Objective

    Objective Junior Member

    This is common on gold pieces from the era. It was a jewelry piece, and what you see is solder remnants. If you look at enough gold coins, you'll find many of these. Most are more damaged than the coin you show.
     
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