Could this be a D over S penny

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  1. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

    Found this penny! Is this a D over S 1960 penny. Wait they didn’t strike proof coins! ? I’m confused!
     

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  3. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

    Wait they didn’t strike proof coins! ? I’m confused!
     
  4. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    The "D" means Denver, and no, they did not strike proof coins.

    In order to tell you anything meaningful, we will need clearer images. That image is quite blurry.

    There are no known D/S mintmarks for this date.

    Check the listings here to see if yours might match one of these: http://varietyvista.com/02b LC RPMs Vol 2/RPMs 1960D (1-60).htm
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    No D/S, not a proof.
     
  6. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

    Weird! I know! Gotta be a d over d. Took more pictures with my daughters iPhone 8. Don’t think it helped
     

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  7. I am no pro or nothing, but it definitely looks like something. Question to the experts--IS IT POSSIBLE, TO BE THE FIRST. JUST BECAUSE, IT HAS BEEN NO KNOWN EXISTENCE--COULD AN ERROR COIN BE THE FIRST OF THE FIRST. MAKING EVEN MORE VALUABLE? Just wondering, like I said-I am not an expert
     
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  8. Bambam8778

    Bambam8778 Well-Known Member

    Not a RPM expert. Some of the lincoln cent series are easy to find in the RPM section of Variety vista. Others, not so much. This 1960 D listings have a total of 113 varieties. The closest I could find is here: http://varietyvista.com/02b LC RPMs Vol 2/1960DRPM013.htm but it doesn't appear to be a direct match. It could be your example has a very strong strike on the RPM. Not sure. Check out variety vista to see if you can match.............
     
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  9. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Let's clarify some terminology first - this would not be an "error coin" as it is traditionally used in numismatics. This would be a variety, and it would be a Repunched MintMark variety (RPM).

    And yes, it absolutely possible to discover a new variety. It happens sometimes. I discovered a new DDR (double die reverse) on a Franklin half.

    On Cointalk, we tend to be very skeptical of those sorts of things, however, because 99 out of 100, a coin posted just has some damage or a spot or something.

    Looking at the new pictures that @Amberlarry22 posted, however, I think it is possible that they may have a D/D RPM.
     
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  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I voted for the second . in your poll :jawdrop:
     
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  11. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

    Lol! Not an expert by far either. I just started this hobby of course. Just a lot showing D over D small over large of some sort!
     

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  12. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    It looks like an RPM to me. You can also check at Brian's Variety Coins online to see if he has a match. (Brian Ribar )
     
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  13. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    That's looking good for a D/D. Interesting find. Now all you need is a reputation behind it and you've got something by and large unique. Those numbers are "strike doubling," and that's very common.
     
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  14. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    There's no 1960-S coin. So no on the D over S.
    In 1960 the proof coins were made in Philadelphia.
    There is a small date proof and a large date proof.
    Since this is a Denver coin, not a proof.
     
  15. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Well, no...& for 2 key reasons:

    (1) There never was an S mint this year, so the OP's basic premise is false/unsupported.

    (2) This is a 59 yr old coin. In 59 yrs, the chances that every variety has been found are virtually 100% (except for the "wisher's" & "hoper's" - they always think it's possible.). Now, if this coin was only 8 or 10 yrs old, it might be in the realm of possibilities.

    One should really learn about what they're looking at (ie, know that an S is not possible for this year - something which could be found in a Red Book).

    And one must learn to discern what is probable from what is not. Otherwise, huge amounts of energy will be wasted going down a rabbit hole.

    I know, I know, "that's what this site is for", yada, yada, yada. I don't disagree, until the same people keep posting the same issues, albeit, with different coins. We know who's trying & learning; & who's in it for the easy way out.

    JMHO
     
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  16. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I absolutely and 100% disagree with you. Let me tell you why: a few years ago, I discovered the DDR-005 for the 1951 Franklin. The coin was 60-something years old, and I was the first person to find it. I submitted it to CONECA and James Wiles has given me credit for discovery in the files.

    Even for extremely widely studied series like the Bust coins, there are new varieties discovered each decade. Doesn't happen often, but it happens. For something like a 1960D where there are already 113 known RPMs... I'd be more surprised if there were NOT more varieties found. Key thing with those is - absolutely nobody collects them by variety. You could discover a completely new thing, and if nobody wants to buy it, it's worth a penny.

    If you know what you are doing, and if you keep at it, there is definitely a chance to find something new.

    Here's mine:

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  17. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    You're entitled!

    However, everything in perspective: OP posted a common cent, whereas you posted about a Franklin. There are vastly more people looking at cents than there are halfs...vastly more. Is it possible sure, but is it plausible? No.

    But I'm happy for you. Sometimes the unlikely does happen. I stand by my previous comments.
     
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  18. People learn by asking, and I work 72 hours per pay period....not looking fir an easy way out. I make good money!!!!! and my grandson does this because he is interested in coins not me.
     
  19. Thank u 4 the knowledge, it truly is appreciated
     
  20. Thanks a lot, i will pass it on to the grand. Thanks
     
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  21. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I would think your grandson is interested in both you and coins. Being a boy, coins would show but the interest in Grandma doesn't.
     
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