copper conservation or restoration (NGC vs. PCGS )

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  1. Dialupsux

    Dialupsux Well-Known Member

    Anyone done a conservation on a copper cent with black spots from either NGC or PCGS ? The pricing seems a gamble
     
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  3. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I think your coin might be a lost cause
     
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  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Where's the Coin please ? Is it Valuable ?
     
  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I believe that ICG will do a restoration on some coins for free. Don't quote me on that. Maybe we should ask skip. @Insider
    If you are looking for authentication ICG is just as good as the other three and ICG has a special for CT members.
    The 55 has some very dark corrosion. I think that it would be good if authentic to get those spots dealt with so that they don't do any further damage.
    good luck.
     
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  6. potty dollar 1878

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  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I had a nice chat with NGC/NCS some time back on this topic. They didn't give much hope for dark spots on copper. They have to see the coin to decide if they will work on it. Short story was that they might be able to lighten the spots but they will probably still show. After the work, the coin may not straight grade.
     
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  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    What he said !
     
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  9. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    I'd do a lot more research before you touch it or send it off. Despite the spots, it's a nice looking coin. Have you owned it long enough to notice if the spots are growing?
     
  10. Dialupsux

    Dialupsux Well-Known Member

    I have owned it for 8 years my family for about 50.I didn't take any photos when i got it but I remember spots, just can't remember how big they were
     
  11. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    Spots or not, its a beauty.
     
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  12. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Still a beauty so don't alter it by cleaning or restoration
     
  13. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'm thinking that just a new holder of some type would make the coin look much better.
     
  14. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Enter at your own risk when using a TPG on a already nice copper coin. In my opinion, seal it, enjoy it, leave it alone! Good luck
     
  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    To Mike Thornton and anyone else who thinks this coin is a
    beauty:"

    I don't know if many of you are misinformed, have bad eyesight, extremely low standards of beauty, or just think it is best to say nice things or nothing at all. Whatever.
    The fact is there is not anything attractive about that coin! Without the spots, it is still unattractive. My advice is to sell it as is and put the money into gold or junk silver.

    As for conservation, the only way to "fix" that coin is by stripping it to bare metal and than recoloring it. This is called "doctoring" and is not/SHOUD NOT be done under the banner of acceptable conservation.

    As for conservation offered by the TPGS. Some are MUCH BETTER THAN OTHERS. It also depends on who does the work at each service as some folks are better than others. As with everything else, you'll probably hear horror stories of an attempted conservation gone bad. :(

    ICG charges $5 for conservation if we feel it can be done. We also conserve about 20% of the coins we receive for free after a call to the customer. This happens when it is an easy process and the coin will increase in grade.
     
  16. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    "Eye of the beholder". Not arguing just saying. I'd be happy to own it, even with the spots. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  17. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    True, and one objective of a grading seminar is to IMPROVE a student's
    "eye." BTW, I'd like to own it also, even with spots.:D
     
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