Confused Washington Quarter -Error

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by houston3204, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. houston3204

    houston3204 Numismatic Consultant

    I found a washington Quarter 2004 P Iowa Silver...yes silver quarter with a Philadelphia mint mark...while openining my rolls from the mint/Federal Reserve I found one weird quarter...the reeds are just like my silver proofs not like the business strikes....It stood out..it is silver color,sound, silver test by friend in mining said it was silver, the dealer I known for 30 years said it was silver, tissue test silver as seen in photos say it is silver,The quarter weight is 6.2 grams. The coins used on tissue test was a 1960,1994,2009 Dist of columbia quarters.
    This quarter I have has me stumped....It looks just like my proof quarters..Is it possible one got by? was it bound for San Fran to have mint mark put on but was missed....did san fran use a Phila die? hmmmmm any comments would be great...thanks
    Neal
     

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  3. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    It looks like a normal quarter to me. A lot of the newer coins have that shine to them.
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Anything is possible, but...

    I am kinda confuseded

    The bottom picture the two states quarters look alike.

    (ie clad).
     
  5. houston3204

    houston3204 Numismatic Consultant

    Not just the shine...I have been collecting for 20 plus years.And a coin broker for 10 of those years.....Dave a friend of mine is a coin collector and PSGS grader.....he believes its a silver error as well......I guess photos do not do the justice it deseves.....think about it the weight,composition,and the silver swab test....I been on this for about a week and a half to two weeks....its just weird to have this...I turned down 1-3 thousand for it.....It is really a different coin...thanks
     
  6. houston3204

    houston3204 Numismatic Consultant

    Also explain the tissue test....I did that for a visual example for CT......
     
  7. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    Aside from it being plated, like those corny tv shows try to sell, I don't know. I doubt the silver blanks pass anywhere near Philly on their way to SF, so I don't see that as a possibility. And if the SF mint had a Philly die, I'm sure a lot more would be turning up, and there hasn't been.
    Guy~
     
  8. houston3204

    houston3204 Numismatic Consultant

    I hear ya......funny is it came from a shotgun roll from fed resr bank...then it was distrub....to local bank...then I got it...It was in a roll ...I mean really standing out(the quarter's....reeds)....I kinda thought what you said coleguy...I kinda still believe that....just I can't explain how it got in that roll.....it is a funny co-incidence....
     
  9. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    Well if it is silver, you have a valuable coin on your hands. Philidelphia does not make the silver quarters. Only San Fransciso mints them and they are found in the silver proof sets. Not unusual for someone to crack open a silver set and for the quarters to find themselves into circulation. I can't tell from the pics what you have. Coin World did an article a few weeks ago about how to turn a clad coin into a silver coin. It was a neat article that I saved. If you have the right stuff, it can be done. Like Coleguy states, it is not impossible, but I would have a hard time seeing the silver blanks pass through philly, unless it was hand fed by a mint employee. Can't wait to hear more.
     
  10. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    You might want to post this and the pics in the error section. Maybe Mike Diamond or someone with more expertise will have a better answer. With any luck you may have a really cool error worth some cash there.
    Guy~
     
  11. houston3204

    houston3204 Numismatic Consultant

    hey jaceravone, I agree but the weight the composition, and how it came from the roll.....I can't figure it out.....it will be a challenge for me.....I am going to see a friend of mine who is a NGC slabber...excuse my humor on his title....just the total make up of it has me intrigued......the tissue test was just a visual aid to show it shows up white not gray as a clad does....under a single ply tissue.....
    thanks.....
     
  12. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Houston,

    It is really hard to tell from the pics...even though the coin seems to pass the tissue test! However, since the coin weighs in at 6.2 grams, it is right in the ballpark for a Silver Quarter! The best way to settle this matter once and for all, is to send the coin into PCGS or NGC to have it certified, graded and attributed. Once this is done, then seek more opinions on the value before selling it anywhere or to anyone. In fact, a quick call to Heritage to get their opinion on a possible value and the possibility of consigning the coin to them for one of their' bigger upcoming Auctions.


    Frank
     
  13. houston3204

    houston3204 Numismatic Consultant

    thanks huntsman53...selling it is not my intention right now...too young only 42.....maybe when I am sixty.I'll sell my collection..having to much fun collecting as for sending in...I do not do...sorry but again thanks for your help
    Neal
     
  14. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Neal,

    I understand your feelings on the matter! However, by sending the coin in for certification, grading and attribution now, then you remove all doubt about it, if it does come back as genuine. Also, you will save a lot of money in the fees now, over what you might pay when you hit 60 years of age. If the coin does come back genuine, then instead of getting offers of $3,000, those offers might be closer to $10,000 or more...who knows! No matter what, you can still sit on it and watch the value go up...and up...and up...and up...that is, if there is still a working economy in 18 years. Well, if not, you could probably still buy some food with it due to the Silver content but just think about how many ounces of .999 Fine Silver Bars that you could buy with the money from the sale! More Silver equals more food when the economy goes to the dogs! Sorry, just my sarcastic side coming through!


    Frank
     
  15. xtrmbrdr

    xtrmbrdr Senior Member

    I agree, keep it and do nothing! Has this ever happened before, with any coin? The mystery might kill you, but the value wil just increase by the value of square, over and over again!
     
  16. Duncan

    Duncan Numismatist

    Looks like Coin vault struck again with a plated quarter or it might be rely oily
     
  17. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    It's been a year, houston must be on a beach somewhere with Pupa. :kewl:
     
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