collection to know opinion & worth

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by victoria1800, Jun 15, 2016.

  1. victoria1800

    victoria1800 New Member

    Hi..
    i am uploading few collection pic..
    want to know worth & your views..
    However also in
    1)1881 E PLURL US Unum
    Face Rear
    1881 unum face.jpg 1881 unum state dollar.jpg


    2)Wilhelm deutscher 1876
    Face Rear
    r Wilhelm deutscher 1876 face.jpg Wilhelm deutscher 1876.jpg
     

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  3. Taxidermist

    Taxidermist Collector of US/IL/RU/DE

    Both look fake from those photos.
     
  4. victoria1800

    victoria1800 New Member

    any details on that how come fake
     
  5. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    The 1881 uses a reverse only employed on real coins in 1921. Cannot be real.

    The Prussia Five Mark is more subtle to me, since I don't know the issue, but I am immediately drawn to the weak denticles, the lack of center detail without similar "wear" appearing near the periphery, the poorly-formed stars on the reverse, and what looks more like spots of rust than any "toning" meeting appropriate appearance for silver. And especially in conjunction with a positive Morgan Dollar counterfeit, the preponderance of the evidence indicates it's fake too.

    That said, I cannot conclusively pronounce the Prussian coin a counterfeit due to lack of expertise with the specific issue.
     
  6. victoria1800

    victoria1800 New Member

    so whats are the suitable way to get coin verified as i have
    purchased lot of these coins..
    you can please look at the album

    http://imgur.com/a/yTsuB
     
  7. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Where were they purchased?
     
  8. victoria1800

    victoria1800 New Member

    is it really required to know & i mean does it make difference to the coin authenticity
     
  9. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    So, direct from china then?
     
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  10. victoria1800

    victoria1800 New Member

    I can assure you on this china has nothing to do with it...But also i am trying to find reality of these coins along with worth hence i don't know actually anything about these coins.Just searching over internet & you see it's my first day over this forum
     
  11. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I'm not an expert at all on fakes (nor very good at real coins),
    but that Peace Dollar looks like the slug is showing/wearing through a thin silver plate. aka, fake.
    the 1800 liberty just looks totally funny looking at the zeros
    the 1965 Dollar ... looks like an over sized modern quarter - even stamped facsimile on it ?? webpage that shows the fake ==> http://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins?main_coin=13689
     
  12. victoria1800

    victoria1800 New Member

    May Be the picture Need little rotation..
    & when i searched i found it's "1881 morgan silver dollar" & everything is as same on both pictures..
     
  13. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

  14. victoria1800

    victoria1800 New Member

    yes true but all these morgan pictures are of different year.. i got year 1881 morgan silver
    & i am checking auction on ebay for 1881 morgan they are same..
     
  15. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    fakes are not limited to a certain year.
     
  16. victoria1800

    victoria1800 New Member

    Why you are forcing that my coin is fake as internet clearly say ..
    1881 morgan silver were also without mint mark
     
  17. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    you may want to show the front AND the back of each coin in very closeup detailed pics; not pieces and parts of various ones then.
     
  18. victoria1800

    victoria1800 New Member

    yes i will click again..
    Mean while i need some info on this coin..what to search for this

    IMG_20160615_220643.jpg IMG_20160615_220735.jpg
     
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2016
  19. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Everything on that page identifiable as a "US issue" is suspect, and only the Peace Dollar is even debatable because insufficient detail is present (and I reiterate that color is more rust than the color we know them to tone). The "1800 Dollar" (or whatever denomination it is) is plainly wrong, as there is no "rim" for that issue - the denticles reach to the edge of the coin. There's the infamous "1865 Dollar" using the Washington Quarter design of the next century, one we're always amused to see.

    If these coins were acquired at the same time and/or from the same source, I'd call them all counterfeit offhand.
     
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  20. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Two easy tests are weight and edge milling. Many of the Chinese fakes of coiins from different countries have the same edge milling, hold half a dozen together and the edges are the same.

    Weight is the easiest test if you have a scale that weighs in fractions of a gram you can get a precise weight and compare witgh a real coin. Fakes of crown size coins are usually 3 or 4 grams under weight.

    Another common 'tell' is the fakes are often slightly off center, the rim will be a bit wider one side than another.
     
  21. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    PS
    Another give-away is that they are unusually cheap!
     
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