I have seen some note of die clashes and die cracks on the forum. Does anyone collect these? I have put a few aside, but for no particular reason other than they were discussed in here. The die clashes are minor (Lincoln Cents) but the die cracks are kind of fun since you know there weren't many stamped off of this die after that. There is a 1973-D where the bay between column 2 and 3 is failing and about 1/3 filled in. If you collect these, what do you look for? Thanks- Mike
I love them both. I look for the worst possible...... The bigger the break and the harder the clash, the better.:thumb:
Hi Mike, I don't actively collect them but I do see my share as I'm primarily a 19th Century type collector. I bought an 1855 3 Cent Silver at a show on Sunday and sure enough a die clash quite evident on the reverse. I have also bought three cent nickels and an 1813 Bust half with VERY noticable die clashes. Two Cent pieces are rife with die cracks and I've seen some pretty good ones on Liberty Nickels and Morgan dollars as well. If you ever wanted to get into the area the 19th century stuff is full of it.
I don't actively seek them, but I did find a nice clashed Jefferson in a roll of Brinks wrapped nickels. I've found some rim-to-rim die cracks before, but they do a lot for me, since the mint doesn't really care too much about them. So, basically what I'm saying is, I don't buy die cracks or clashes (or virtually any other errors for that matter), but if I find them, I keep them. I have absolutely no interest in 19th century clashes or cracks though, because they seem to be very common and (IMO) detract a little from the coin, if it's in the MS grades.
I have a Flying Eagle cent clashed with a half dollar die that I bought because it was as close to a mule as I will likely ever get! I agree that 19th century US coinage is great stuff, for a multitude of reasons. The variety and die state chase is endless. As for the moderns, when I run across them, I keep them. It seems like with the improved steel used for dies that moderns with die cracks are actually kind of rare. Some of the early 1800's coins looked like broken plates, but now all you see is an occasional rim-to-device crack, and I am surprised when one shows up.
I have to disagree. On quarters, it is very common to have a die crack extend from the base of the bust to the edge. On halves, the same, plus from the "Y" and/or "T" of "Liberty" to the rim. I don't believe the improvements are from the die-steel as much as they are from the design -- especially from the lowered relief of modern coins. But they still show up all the time. You just have to look closer. {edit} On the other hand, It's quite rare to see a modern look like a broken plate. {/edit}
Hello Everyone, I've been a member quite a while, but still new to this forum. I collect mainly Flying Eagle and Indian Head cents, the series has some spectacular die cracks and clashes. I really have a fascination for them, and yes I pay a premium for the really neat ones. I have only visited this forum every two or so years, my loss. I'm glad to have rediscovered a place where people share my same interest. I would like to see some pics of these die cracks and clashes if you have time to post them. Later,
Real nice Becky, Here is one extending down from the R in LIBERTY in the head band: www.noblecoins.org/1890diecrack.jpg
Thanks Doug, Glad to find another place to talk varieties and errors, it seems like a lot in this group have the same fondness for clashes and die cracks as I do. I think I'll enjoy it here. Later,
Great stuff! That 1811 (um, let's see here, never seen one before, maybe Polish?, maybe Norwegian? Swedish, perhaps?) coin is awesome, as is the undertype on the Morgan. I love that kind of thing.
i have a great 3 cent in ms64 that has a clash on the reverse of the obverse its really strong and clear becuase of the grade i love it even more becuase of the clash
mike, the 1811 one that you see is Russian 2 kopek and the other one is a Finnish 1 markka. I do have several die clashes, all Russians:
Very impressive, I haven't seen much of the world coin die cracks and clashes, are they as common as in the US series? I know some of the European countries take great pride in their mint quality control, or so I'm told.
I did forget that I had another die crack: Around her bust but don't stare at it too long or she might come out to slap you There is one famous Japanese 50 sen die clashed coin which is extremely scarce and that has high value This is just a normal type: http://f1.aaa.livedoor.jp/~yutakama/page5kex.html has the special die clashed coin. The only reason why collectors are mad about this is that it seems that the phoenix is glowing but in fact it's just because of the rice stalks being die clashed which led to this unusual appearance. I don't know much about world coins in regards to die clashes or cracks but when I see one, I just keep note. By the way, how about a counterfeited cracked die for a joke?
Do you think that if i took a sledge hammer and started pounding a coin, it would be worth a fortune?