CoinTalk's BEST CENT GRADERS (from pics)-10

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by bahabully, Apr 7, 2010.

  1. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    I'll only rank those who played in the last round.

    Next week will net a lot of dropped grades from the regulars.. only one this week.
    JustaFarmer - drops lowest 1 score :hail:

    Continuing to tighten up,,,, also some movement in the leaderboard this week.

    Next four and all ANACS

    Gotta have at least 10 graded to rank.

    Rankings (points reflect average points off tpg grades):
    GOLD - JustaFarmer - 1.18 > amazing average over 10+ coins.. amazing. Will be interesting to see how you finish up,, with a comparatively low amount of submitted grades, any major misses will affect this insainly good average much more than most others in the game.
    SILVER - RLM's - 1.89 > slight hit in round 9.
    BRONZE - Duke - 1.97 > neck and neck with RLM's.. I mean close, one or two points on any single coin can flip the line up here.
    Others:
    Louie2bits - 2.13.. as above, only a few points on any single coin and your in there.
    BadThad - 2.68.. tough round 9
    Shoe - 2.88.. a solid round and significant reduction in score here.. nice.

    As we continue to drop lowest scores every point becomes more critical.

    We'll take a fun break after this round, and pony up a few prizes for the regulars who win the next round.

    And now....
     

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  3. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    Next two:
     

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  4. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    Pre-weekend bump...
    Remember, if no one want's to go first... you can always revise your picks after you see the other's posts if you feel the need.
     
  5. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    OK. I will give it a go

    18- 63 I like this one regardless of the grade.
    32-D 64
    96- 67
    09-S 50 Just a SWAG. That pic is impossible. I can hardly see poor Abe's jacket.
     
  6. Shoewrecky

    Shoewrecky Coin Hoarder

    96-MS68
    09S-AU55
    18-MS64
    32D-MS64

    I am in complete agreance with RLM...really really like that 18.
     
  7. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    96-ms68 rd
    09s-xf45 bn
    18-ms65 rb
    32d-ms64 br
     
  8. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    1996 - MS67
    1909S - EF40 (almost went VF35)
    1918 - MS63 (love it)
    1932SD - MS65 (worn dies!)
     
  9. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    1996 67
    09S 45
    1918 64
    32 D 64

    I love the color of the 1918.

    sorry I didn't play last week so you can delete my grades.
     
  10. Louie_Two_Bits

    Louie_Two_Bits Chump for Change

    This is getting harder and harder and I'm starting to over-think things :rolling:...here are my guesses:

    1996 P - ms67
    1909 S - xf47 (I know, not a grade used)
    1918 P - ms63
    1932 D - ms62 (geez I can't tell if weakly struck or worn, up close and it's wear, from a distance weakly struck...I'm waffling between au55 and ms62, but seeming how everyone else thinks this is the bee's knees, they must see something that I don't)

    BTW, bahabully, you have virtually perfected you numismatography skills, your pictures have come a long way since round 1 :thumb:

    -LTB
     
  11. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Indeed! I forgot to compliment you on this round of pictures! Mucho Betta!
     
  12. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    Round 10 recap:

    First,, thanks for the kudo's regarding my picture taking ability.... It has been a learning experience and ya'lls constant complaining, and ranting, and general beach'n pouring down on my head was a good motivator. It is appreciated. To those also learning:
    1 - light, light, lighting !!!
    2 - manual focus,, forget the auto-focus.
    3 - multiple shots of each coin's obv and rev,, up to 20-25 per side for some of the harder to picture, fewer for those that pop right into focus (after a while, you'll know what I mean here). The spend abit of time choosing the best one from the multiple shots. it is a time consuming task, but nice to have a good pics archived of your lil' collection so when the good ones go back into the bank vault, you can still look at them.

    Welcome Tater.. have fun. ;)

    ANACS grades -
    96 - MS67 RD
    09S - EF45 BN
    18 - MS62 BN
    32D - AU58 BN (the whammo in this group)

    Opinions:
    96 - What a 67 should look like imo... no spotting, clean, good details. I noticed what appears to be DD'ing on the reverse D and S of uniteD and States.. thought it was cool so picked it up. New dd variety just sleeping out there ? or MDD ?
    09S - weaker obv strike, nice even color. Hard to grade from pic,, but ya'll did pretty good.
    18S - Easily my favorite woody cent toner I've seen, so got it. Bands are bluer and reder in hand,, on a golden background... How it got BN'ed I have no idea, should be RB easily, but tpg color application has always bothered me at times, often more so than grading variability. Also an upgrade candidate imo.
    32D - Dunno, I can't see any wear other than maybe the cheek, but I think that's strike. Compare this one at 58 to the previous 11D at 60 and you tell me what you think. I think this is an upgrade candidate. Congratulations to Louie2bits for being the only one to breach the AU potential on this one,, and then posting an MS grade..... ; )

    Awards for this set of cents:
    Best - Louie2bits - 1.75 > Another hard round, solid score.
    HA - Shoe - 4.75 ;),,,, man you just don't do the middle ground,,, I like the conviction.
    Others:
    RLM's - 3.0
    Duke - 2.5
    BadThad - 3.25
    Tater - 2.0


    Another tough round with most significant delta's coming from the 32D...

    On to Round 11.. the fun round,, winner takes the coins.
     
  13. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    I just KNEW they would miss the grade on that coin. I really hate the TGP's sometimes. This is what happens when each guy spends 10 seconds looking at a coin to assign a grade. No consideration of die state! Personally, I'd probably crack that coin and send it to DGS for a real grade. :headbang:
     
  14. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    Yeah,,, I just don't see wear on it other than a couple nics here and there, but all of those a minor imo. Just strike weakness imo.... don't see any wear above the ear, which is one of my first focal points after the rims... I'd have gone 63 based on weakness of strike and fuzziness between strike and wear..... but no way AU imo. Louie saw something none of us did, then followed the rest of us sheep off the cliff anyway,, but at least he jumped off the low side ;)
     
  15. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I almost said that 32-D was AU, but the one that gets me is that 1918. Either your pictures are really bad color or that coin can not be brown.
     
  16. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    I almost looks like a gold coin, maybe a bit darker, and a bit darker in hand... but not brn.. no way. RB easily. tpg variability as real in color designation as in grading.
     
  17. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Crack that sucker! That's an MS coin and the assigned grade was nothing more than a conservative cop-out. That's the same thing NGC did to me on my 1918-S....it's DEFINATELY an MS coin but they quickly graded and gave me an AU-58. Apparently the graders knew squat about the issue so they assign some conservative garbage number. :headbang:

    Please....an experienced Lincoln collector point out the "wear" on this coin. I've had at least 4 pro's look at it and tell me it's MS!!!! There's virtually not a single hit on this coin. How could it have been circulated and not take a hit? Pretty rainbow on the reverse.
     

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  18. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    haha.. AU58..... dunno... Looks MS something to me.
     
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