Let me hear this one. I see it all the time in here that coins are a terrible investment, but if I look at some older price guides, most of the values have increased. I am talking more about key date coins or coins in high grades for a series. I'm not hoping to go buy a few rolls of "unsearched" wheat cents on eBay in hopes in 5 years they're worth a few hundred dollars or get all MS/PR70 Eagles or anything. Coins of example. Lincolns 1909-S VDB 1914-D Mercury Dimes 1916-D 1921 1921-D Quarters 1917 ty1 1924-D 1932-s 1932-d I know there are lots more that I haven't mentioned and maybe it was the big boom with the companies that invested in coins that scares everyone, but I guess I don't get it.... So why are coins a bad investment?
If you have knowledge and experience in coins they will be fine investments. Just like Stocks, you need to know about them and not just buy any one for no reason. Invest in what you know is the best idea IMO.
Well there are a whole bunch of reasons, but for starters, I would say the real world spread between buy price and sell price is a real killer.
the 1916 D Merc is listed at 450.00 in XF condition in 1967. Today it is listed at $6200. If you invested 450.00 in the S&P 50 years ago it would be worth $47,000.00. If my math is correct.
Older price guides - how much older ? Looking at the market as a whole, if you bought coins between 1986 and now, and still held them, then about the best you would be doing is breaking even. That's almost 30 years. Is breaking even over 30 years a good investment ? And that's not taking inflation or anything else into account. Very simply put coins are just like any other investment. In order to be successful you have to buy the right coins, and only the right coins. And you have to buy every one of at just the right time, and at just the right price. And that's just the first part. Then you have to sell the right coins, and only the right coins, at just the right time, and at just the right price. Do any one of those wrong, and you'll lose money. In other words, you have to be very, very, lucky to make money on coins. Very few are that lucky.
if you bought a key date Jefferson Nickel in 1967 for 22.00, it would be worth 16.00 today. Thats a bad investment.
Exacto! For as few "winners" that there are, there are many, many more losers on the investment scale.
I don't see coins as bad investments at all but there are some collectors who think because they buy a key date they are automatically gonna make a profit and that dog don't hunt. In fact that dog, don't even sniff around.
If you bought $450 of corn flakes in 1945, they'd be worth $21,000 today, but I don't hear folks calling them a "good investment"
Would you say I know coins Duke ? I sold two entire collections in my lifetime - lost money on both of them. Why ? Because there's more to it than just knowing coins. You also have to buy at the right time, and sell at the right time - and be right both times. Or you will lose money, just like I did.
Buying low and selling high is really only way to make money from coins. Other than that, I personally wouldn't rely on coins for investment purposes.
I'm not down on coins as an investment. I'm down on investors who expect to make money in coins without becoming true experts. Investors need more than some investment newsletter and the Grey Sheet to succeed. They need to understand the collector mentality, the dealer's perspective, and the dynamics that drive the market. For that reason, I believe that a "collector turned investor" stands a decent chance of making money, an "investor turned collector" needs quite a bit of luck to do so, and a "pure investor" is destined to fail in this market.
If you sold them as a 'pure food organic substance' produced before the big atomic testing of megatons proportion and organic chemical pollution of the environment, you could grind them in a powder and add to greek yoghurt and ..."presto ebay'.
1967 sp = 100 today sp = 1700 450x17= 7650. s&p would be worth less than $7650 actually because I rounded up from 90 to 100. Really they are close to exactly the same
If you stick to the sure things you will make money with the quick flip. I'd call the gold buffalo reverse proof a sure thing. The Army half dollar was a sure thing, the 5 coin silver eagle set was a sure thing. the 2012 proof and mint sets were also a sure thing. An astute person can make money if they are willing to go for the sure thing and flip it.