Coin Talk is a very busy Forum.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Elbesaar, Mar 11, 2012.

  1. Elbesaar

    Elbesaar Junior Member

    Every day, I hit the three web sites I frequent to see what's new in the coin world. I really never tracked how many people were on a particular web site when I was on.

    I just saw that Coin Talk has just over 500 collectors on line at the moment. I had just left the NGC site, where a grand total of 13 collectors were on line in all their Forums.

    I would imagine PCGS has somewhere in the middle of those figures. Edited: I just checked. 139 users on line as I type this.

    This place I a whole busier than most people realize.

    Keep it up, Coin Talk. Good job !!
     
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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Now just to convert all of those lurkers into contributing members. Come on guys, if you are reading this, you can be a member and post whatever questions you may have here!
     
  4. lincolncent

    lincolncent Future Storm Chaser Guy

    Ah, I see somewhere to insert an annoying register now post. I do this frequently over on the main weather forum I post on, especially when we have a lot of lurkers.

    Ahem.

    Hey you 745 guests on the forum!

    REGISTER! http://www.cointalk.com/register.php

    Most of us don't bite!
    Awwww, we need a way to rename the link!
     
  5. McBlzr

    McBlzr Sr Professional Collector

    Free information about Coins 24/7 !

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  6. Taxidermist

    Taxidermist Collector of US/IL/RU/DE

    Unless the forum software properly tweaked, large portion of these guests are bots and spiders, not real people.
     
  7. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

  8. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    I choose to come to this forum over others because quite frankly, the other sites have some people who have attitude problems. I mean having an ego is one thing, but a few of these guys go way beyond. They belittle newbie posts and refuse to listen to views other than their own.

    at least here some of us are better tolerated. lol

    Just sayin'

    gary
     
  9. jjack

    jjack Captain Obvious

    You know those guests could be bots :smile
     
  10. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Now why would there be bots??? I believe they are trying to take over the world. Just listening into our conversations just so they can find out stuff like where we live and our social security #s.


    I actually came to this forum for help writing a paper and became a more advanced collector :)
     
  11. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Vast majority probably are. A "guest" viewing the site usually counts as an un-logged-in visitor from a unique IP address that has viewed the site in the past 24 hours.

    I'd speculate that given the vast amount of data on CoinTalk that somewhere around 3/4's of those "visitors" are bots.

    EDIT: For those who don't understand what we mean by "bots" we mean computer programs that crawl the web looking for data to add to search engine databases.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If they are "bots", they sure stay for a long time ! 827 as of now.
     
  13. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    A lurker can become a member anytime. I lurked around for a few weeks to get the feel of the forum before I joined. Perhaps they're doing the same thing? Well maybe not all of them...
     
  14. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    No offense intended, but that is spoken like a dinosaur.

    The way these bots work is they go to a webpage and crawl every page of the site, building databases out of key words they find on those pages. So if there's a 40 page thread, that bot will crawl over the whole thread, every page, every word, sticking the key words into a database somewhere associated with that page. The burden of search bots on a forums traffic can be fairly heavy if it's a popular and very active forum, as is this one, hence why most search engines will allow you to opt out of showing up on their results. If you opt out, the bots will no longer access pages on your domain.

    How do I know? As admin of a forum with about 500 monthly users, I can tell you that prior to opting out of the search engine results, we were seeing somewhere around 100-150 bots per day crawling all open forums.
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Non taken, and I'm well aware of bots and how they work. And no doubt there are a certain number of bots scanning the site at any given time.

    But to assume the bots are scanning the site ALL the time, I think is a mistake. By that logic all of the forum sites would show the same activity and in similar numbers. But they don't. Also, the bots would be programmed to ignore any previously scanned posts and only scan the new ones. So the time each bot was scanning the site would be limited.

    Coin Talk consistently shows a much larger number of users viewing the site than any other coin forum. And the fact that it does so day after day and hour after hour tells me that CT simply has more traffic than any other coin forum.

    Having been here daily, multiple times daily, for going on 10 years now, I can tell you with absolute certainty that visitor traffic on CT has done nothing but steadily increase.
     
  16. ctrl

    ctrl Member

    The best coin forum.
     
  17. GreatWalrus

    GreatWalrus WHEREZ MAH BUKKIT

    95 members, 790 guests online right now :O
     
  18. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I really like Coin Talk as it's a great mixture of old blood and new blood with lots and lots of new traffic.

    It's non-TPG owned which allows me the freedom of really expressing myself instead of worrying that what I say regarding a TPG will come back to bite me in the butt!

    The forums are well maintained, have some excellent features and have a very reasonable response time for me.
     
  19. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Greater number of posts = greater number of bots crawling the forum to skin data. They rise in proportion to one another. It's not like they assign three bots to a forum or something... it's all mathematical algorhythms that determine how many bots will crawl a forum on a day.

    I'm not saying that there's nobody else checking out CT, I'm saying that number is greatly inflated by bots and also, by the way "guests" are measured by most forum software. Let's say someone reads a CT page they found via google, hits the back button to get back to their search, and goes back on the web... well, they're still counted as a "guest" reading that forum/thread for 24 hours after that.

    It's like saying there's 800 people on the escalator at one time when 800 people have used it in the last 24 hours. Misleading if nothing else.
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If you say so Merc.

    Of course for the past 2 years we have averaged over 20 new registered members each and every day.

    User activity has averaged over 400 every day since Jan. 2009.

    We are currently averaging about 75 new threads - every day. And believe it or not that has slowed down from a previous average of 150 new threads every day the year before.

    For the past 2 years we have averaged 800 new posts every single day - with more than a few days going over 1000 new posts.

    Now since bots don't do any of that - well, I think you get the point ;)
     
  21. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    Where did it go ? I just saw an article posting that sounded interesting on the side board. But I visited a few other links before I could get back to the subject of a presidential dollar having an new found error, the site was no longer on the side board. I searched the different forums but couldn't find it.
     
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