Coin Show Heist!!!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Indianhead65, Jan 13, 2007.

  1. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    Has anyone heard about this. Apparently, the Fun Show in Florida wasnt so fun for some. Its reported that a Minnesota Dealers employee was loading up coins in his SUV when a "band of masked men" robbed him at knife point and took $4 million dollars worth of rare coins including a rare set of 1843 coins once owned by former President Tyler. This article is in the Ebay blog section. Heres the URL for it, Im not sure if It'll work but here it is.
    http://blogs.ebay.com/timebuilder/entry/Robbers-Net-4M-in-Coin-Convention-Heist/_WO.
    Sounds like something back in the old west days.
     
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  3. samjimmy

    samjimmy New Member

  4. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    Thank you samjimmy.
     
  5. samjimmy

    samjimmy New Member

    I will say that to some degree, it's the only advantage of selling currency (each note has a serial number). Bottom line is that wherever there's money or valuable things like coins, diamonds, etc., their will be thieves that target those shows, conventions, stores, etc.

    If, out of 1,700 dealers, only one was robbed, then that's a miracle IMHO. If no one that attended the show (don't have the figures, but I presume it's a large number) was robbed, then really it's utterly amazing.
     
  6. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I've heard one person say that they think it was an inside job---I can't really say what I think because I have only read some of the reports...
    I do think that robbing a person at knife point is kindof out-dated and it just doesn't happen often....

    Speedy
     
  7. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    You're absolutely right samjimmy. I'm sure there were thousands that attended that show and if there's a place thats targeted by thieves it would certainly be a major coin show like the FUN show where there are literally milloins of dollars worth of rare coins and currency. Its still a shame though because alot of these dealers travel from all over the country and beyond to sell at these shows and end up being robbed. Even if it is only one dealer out of who knows how many, where was security at when these people were packing up to leave. There should have been some kind of security there. I was at a show recently that only had 30 tables and they had an armed guard at the door the entire day.
     
  8. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    Here is a partial list of what was stolen:
    1843 Proof Set - All coins PCGS certified:
    Date/Mint Denomination Grade Description Certification #
    1843 1/2 Cent PCGS PR 62 BN Original
    1843 1 Cent PCGS PR 64 BN
    1843 1/2 Dime PCGS PR 63
    1843 Dime PCGS PR 63
    1843 25c PCGS PR 63
    1843 50c PCGS PR 63
    1843 $1 PCGS PR 63
    1843 $21/2 Gold PCGS PR 63CAM
    1843 $5 Gold PCGS PR 63CAM
    1843 $10 Gold PCGS PR 63
    These coins are pedigreed by PCGS on the Holder with: "Pres. Tyler Presentation Set"


    Date/Mint Denomination Grade Description Certification #
    1795 FH $1 Two Leaves PCGS 64(PQ) Med. Tone, Original with great strike
    1798 Large Eagle $1 PCGS 64(PQ) Blast White; Ex-Garrett (not on PCGS holder)
    1795 FH 50c PCGS 64 Beautiful blue s, golds, and russets
    1885-S 10c PCGS 65 Medium gold toning
    1918/7-D 5c PCGS 64 Ex. Bill Fivaz
    1836 Gobrecht Orig $1 PCGS PR 62 Pretty toning, Ex. Troy Weisman on holder1867
    1842 $1 PCGS 64(PQ) Light tone
    1845 $1 PCGS 62 Light tone with some brown color
    1928 50c PCGS 65 Great strike and White
    1924-S 5c PCGS 64(PQ) Very pretty light tone - great strike
    1918/17-D 5c PCGS 58(PQ) Great strike with fresh luster
    1925-S Peace $1 PCGS 65 Light original tone
    1896 1c PCGS PR 66RED
    1862 $1 PCGS 63(PQ) Lightly toned at rims
    1803/2 $5 PCGS 58(PQ) Great strike and really fresh
    1845 $1 NGC PR 58 Mostly white
    1849 $1 NGC PR 60 Mostly white
    1866 W/M $1 PCGS PR 65DCAM Blast white with great contrast
    1918 50c PCGS 65(PQ) Blast White
    1880 25c NGC 67 Old Holder, pretty toning
    1928 $20 PCGS 66 Being tried for "67's"
    1928 $20 PCGS 66 Being tried for "67's"
    1923-D $20 PCGS 66 Being tried for "67's"
    1924 $20 PCGS 66 Being tried for "67's"
    1927 $20 PCGS 66 Being tried for "67's"
    1867-S 10c NGC 62 Light tone and really clean
    1799/8 $1 NGC 55 Original Med/Dark tone
    1852-O $20 NGC 55(PQ)
    1853-O $20 NGC 53(PQ) Came out of a PCGS 55 holder
    1877-S $10 NGC 55(PQ)
    1844-C 2 1/2 NGC 58(PQ) Graded it "61" in FUN Stack's sale
    1913 $20 PCGS 64(PQ) No Marks
    1910-D $10 PCGS 64(PQ) No Marks
    1908-S 1c PCGS 65RED(PQ) Blazing red
    1900-S 10c PCGS 66(PQ) Pretty original color.
    1881-O $10 NGC 53
    1908 $5 Indian PCGS 64 Just graded
    1830 50c PCGS 63 Medium tone, just purchased at FUN
    1842-O $5 PCGS 45(PQ)
    1862-S $20 NGC 58
    1902-S 25c NGC 65 Lite tone
    1905-O 25c PCGS 66 Medium tone w/great luster
    1857-O $5 PCGS 45(PQ)
    1892 25c PCGS 64(PQ)
    1899 25c PCGS 64(PQ)
    1821 25c NGC 58 Medium to dark original tone
    1878 50c NGC 65 Fresh and mostly white
    1902 2 1/2 PCGS PR 62CAM Just purchased at FUN
    1932 $10 PCGS 64
    1932 $10 PCGS 64
    1932 $10 PCGS 64
    1909-S VDB 1c PCGS 64RED some spots
    1908-S 1c PCGS 64RED(PQ)
    1889 G$1 PCGS 67(PQ)
    1880 $5 NGC 64
    1912 2 1/2 PCGS 63
    1929 2 1/2 PCGS 64
    1928-S 1c PCGS 64RED
    1913-D $20 PCGS 64(PQ)
    1932 $10 PCGS 64
    1932 $10 PCGS 64
    1859 1c PCGS 65CAM(PQ)
    1896 $1 PCGS 66PL
    1923 25c PCGS 66
    1929 25c PCGS 66
    1855 1/2C PCGS 64RED
    1853-O G$1 PCGS 64(PQ)
    1926 $2 1/ PCGS 64
    1855 2 1/2 PCGS 63 (was NGC 63)
    1878-S $5 PCGS 62(PQ)
    1922 $20 PCGS 64(PQ)
    1832 1/2 Dime PCGS 66
    1858 1/2 Dime PCGS 67
    1847 $10 NGC 61
    1912-S $5 PCGS 61
    1933-S 50c PCGS 66 10908886
    1934 50c PCGS 66 10908887
    1934-D 50c PCGS 66 10908888
    1934-S 50c PCGS 66 10908889
    1935 50c PCGS 66 10908890
    1935-D 50c PCGS 66 10908891
    1935-S 50c PCGS 66 10908892
    1936 50c PCGS 66 10908893
    1936-D 50c PCGS 66 10908894
    1936-S 50c PCGS 66 10908895
    1937 50c PCGS 66 10908896
    1937-D 50c PCGS 66 10908897
    1937-S 50c PCGS 66 10908898
    1938 50c PCGS 66 10908899
    1938-D 50c PCGS 66 10908900
    1939 50c PCGS 66 10908901
    1939-D 50c PCGS 66 10908902
    1939-S 50c PCGS 66 10908903
    1940 50c PCGS 66 10908904
    1940-S 50c PCGS 66 10908905
    1887 $1 NGC PR 66CAM
    1907 1c PCGS 66RED
    1909 Lincoln 1c PCGS 66RED
    1797 1/2D 13 Stars PCGS 06
    1907 10c NGC PR 66
    1825 25c NGC 62
    1915 25c NGC PR 66
    1916-D 25c PCGS 66
    1807 DB 50c NGC 62
    1831 50c PCGS 65
    1879 50c NGC 67
    1936 50c NGC PR 66
    1879-CC/cc $1 NGC 63
    1887/6-O $1 ANACS 64
    1890-CC $1 PCGS 64
    1894-S $1 PCGS 64
    1857 $3 NGC 63
    1869 J-751 25c NGC PR 66
    1900 Lafayette $1 PCGS 64
     
  9. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    WOW!!!! Partial? I'd become ill if I saw the whole thing.
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I saw that in Coin World, it must have been his whole inventory.
     
  11. 09S-V.D.B

    09S-V.D.B Coin Hoarder

    Ouch! I hope the guy has more than just a few serial numbers for a bunch of cheap (compared to the rest of inventory) Walking Liberty halves. Secondly, how much does it cost to hire an off-duty police officer or two for a few hours? $200? That would have saved the guy a lot of trouble.
     
  12. samjimmy

    samjimmy New Member

    Well, they are mostly slabs so they have numbers, though I'm guessing they will break out a good many of them (if they're smart). If so, those pedigreed coin won't be pedigreed anymore.
    est. 15 minted. Not every day that a "Pres. Tyler Presentation Set" (if still slabbed) or even a non-slabbed one shows up. Sometimes it's better to steal things that aren't... so rare.
     
  13. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    Didn't this same type of thing happen 2-3 years ago at the F.U.N show?
     
  14. samjimmy

    samjimmy New Member

    It happened last year I believe, but it wasn't as much and different circumstances (cars being broken into while dealers ate lunch on their way home).
     
  15. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Or he could have gotten a CWL for cheaper than that more than likely---when I go to shows I don't carry a bag or such, as I think if you go out of a show carrying a bag you are more of a target---I don't know if its my face or what but most people just don't fool around with me :D :D

    Speedy
     
  16. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper


    Now if you had 4 million in coins dont you think you could afford an armed guard?? That to me that is stupidity 101
    Sorry folks..call em like I see em...

    RickieB
     
  17. vincent2920

    vincent2920 Senior Member

    Sounds to me that the Fun Show folks have the same type of security personnel that Ebay uses ... Invisible .. Incompetent and probably Non-existent.
     
  18. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    Most of the shows I go to have about 20 armed police officers. I worry about the cops, and I don't even intend to break the law.
     
  19. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Speedy,

    Your face really couln't be that bad, could it???? Now, if your face is as broad as a 5 gallon bucket, looks like a bruised potato, you have cauliflower ears and you go around saying Uh Huh, Nope and Duh alot, then I wouldn't foll with you either and I retract the question!:goofer: :goofer:

    Sorry! I am just kidding and just couldn't resist picking at your statement!:D
     
  20. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    That is a good one Frank :D :D ....I guess my face is a face only a mother could love :D

    Speedy
     
  21. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    I am glad that you can take a joke! Besides, I probably fit into the same category.
     
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