Coin Of St.Ladislaus 1077-95 AD

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Mikjo0, Mar 1, 2006.

  1. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    I'm posting this coin for two reasons.One,I just found out,after having this coin for several years,that Ladislaus The First had been canonized after his death and is now St.Ladislaus.After St. Stephen,the patron Saint of Hungary,he is the most revered person in Hungarian history.
    Second thing is,I have never seen the method that was apparently used to create the little round pellets on the obverse.These little things are on almost every type of hammered coin and are just cut into the obverse die but on this coin,it appears as though they were punched through from the back,or more accurately,they were "helped" to flow into the obverse die with a bit of reverse punching despite the fact that there is also a full design on the reverse.
    Other than incuse punches on ancient Greek coins,have any of out Dark Ages/Medieval people ever seen this before on hammered coinage?
     

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  3. PyrotekNX

    PyrotekNX Senior Member

    Very interesting, I wouldn't be suprised if that was post 'mint' damage.
     
  4. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    Pyro,
    Either that or it's a sort of brockage error.There is almost the exact pattern as if another obverse got pressed into the reverse,even down to the circle in the middle.What do the experts think?
     
  5. PyrotekNX

    PyrotekNX Senior Member

    It's obviously not a brockage, it's definitely some kind of counterpunch. The question is when they were made and for what purpose. It could just be part of the production of the coin.
     
  6. lawdogct

    lawdogct Coin Collector

    A 2 strike coin process. Interesting thought. I was thinking maybe it was a flip strike. Can only imagine how mind numbing it must get to hammer out coins all day.

    read: Strike....yawn...grab already struck coin...insert...realize mid-swing....ahhhh crap....half check swing....throw struck coin in pile hoping no one notices.....until Mikjo0 sees it 1000 years later :p

    whatever happened to it, I love the design on it.
     
  7. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    LOL lawdog..what a visual.
    I'm considering making an impression in soft wax or clay and see what it looks like.The more I look at it,the more convinced I am that it is a die for the obverse.You can even see the cross.I'll post a photo when I'm finished.
     
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