Coin of ancient Israel

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  1. SRSNUM

    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    These coins have always eluded my abilities to attribute them. I have tried using my Hendin 2001 and Meshorer 1967 but as usual fall short. Trust someone with the knowledge may be able to help attribute the piece illustrated and described below. All comments welcome.

    15 mm

    1.80 grams

    Copper

    Exhibits corrosion on both obverse & reverse. Trust there may be enough remaining for a Hendin or Meshorer number. TIA

    ANCIENTISRAELPRUTAHOBV.jpg


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  3. ill buy it off you, lol
     
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  4. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Off the top of my head Alexander Janneus prutah with legend/cornucopia type. Are you wanting specific Hendin number?
     
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  5. SRSNUM

    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    Thanks medoraman for responding. Yes...it was my hope that a Hendin or Meshorer number might be forthcoming.
     
  6. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    the double cornucopia started with John Hyrcanus I, then Judah Aristoblus I, then Alexander Jannaeus and continued with Salome Alexandra as Regent for John Hyrcanus II or Aristobulus II. However, I can't translate the legends...as i take another sip of whisky :D
     
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  7. SRSNUM

    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    Not only can I not translate the legends, I am unable to match them by pattern recognition.

    Perhaps it may prove impossible to fully attribute the item because the passage of time has muddled the legends (wear, corrosion, encrustation, damage..etc.) beyond recognition?
     
  8. SRSNUM

    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    Thought to supply the obverse image without color in an effort to see if this might make the image clearer. See below.

    ANCIENTISRAELPRUTAHOBV.jpg
     
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  9. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

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    I think one is similar. Excuse the lame photo - I snapped this when I was just starting out. I believe it says something like Yehenaton the high priest.
     
  10. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I recently had a similar situation with a prutah I found in my local dealer's junk bin - my efforts at attribution are below. The link was pretty useful, I thought, if not conclusive in this case. So it goes with ancients sometimes!

    Judaea - John Hyc. Prutah AZ Dec. 2019 (0).jpg

    Judaea, Hasmonian Kingdom
    John Hyrcanus I? Æ Prutah
    (135-104 B.C.)
    Jerusalem Mint

    Paleo-Hebrew within wreath (Yehohanan the High Priest and the Council of the Jews) / Double cornucopia beribbobed, pomegranate between.
    Hendin 457
    (1.79 grams / 8 mm)

    Attribution Note:

    Obverse legend mostly illegible; this could be: "Consistent with a coin issued in the time of Alexander Jannaeus (103–76 B.C.)... similar coin was issued by Yehohnan Hyrcanus (135-104 B.C.)...Another similar coin...was issued by Yehuda Aristobulus 1 (104–103 B.C.)..."

    http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rak/courses/735/Realia/coins-Judean-vw.html
     
  11. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    My not an expert opinion is that it could be a Hendin 1137. I have one that features most of the inscription. There are several Judaean coins that use this particular design of the double cornucopia and inscription. I still have to depend on my trusted dealers to decipher these.

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    Last edited: Jan 29, 2021
  12. SRSNUM

    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    Many thanks to ancient coin hunter, Marsyas Mike and Deacon Ray for their responses. Each of their examples and links, shed some light on the identity of the mystery coin. But this nut seems hard to crack and appears to need additional evidence to get to the final answer. I only wish I could be part of the solution but I just don’t have the chops to do so.
     
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  13. SRSNUM

    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    Thanks to all for responding. It is much appreciated!
     
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  14. cmezner

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  15. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    This is my lone prutah.

    Judea, 103-76 BC
    Hasmonean dynasty
    AE prutah
    Alexander Jannaeus (Yehonatan)
    Jerusalem mint
    Obverse Hebrew inscription, Yehonatan High Priest Council Jews, surrounded by wreath.
    Reverse: Double cornucopia adorned with ribbons, pomegranate between horns.
    The script says: YHONTN = (Yehonatan); H= The; KHN = (Priest); H= The; DOL = (high); W = And, is missing by die engraver error. (HH)BR (consul); H= The; YHWDM (Jews).
    Good VF and exceptional for this crude issue. Rare
    1.9 grams

    Hendin ?


    D-Camera Alexander Jannaeus prutah , 103-76 BC, 2 grams, eBay 2020, exceptional 12-4-20.jpg
     
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