Coin grading

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Joshua Killian, Mar 2, 2022.

  1. What's the best company to go with for Coin Grading?
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    PCGS, NGC and ANACS. I like ANACS/ NGC the best. What are you trying to have graded if you don't mind me asking?
     
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  4. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

    ICG is another second-tier option, not the best though but comparable to ANACs in my opinion
     
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  5. DANIEL HENRIQUEZ

    DANIEL HENRIQUEZ Active Member

    NGC is the industry leader with ANACS equal since they are owned by the same company then, PCGS. That said though, be aware of and cautious of the 3rd party additional graders such as CAC and MAC. Although they state they confirm the grades of what NGC, ANACS or PCGS gives a coin, they do this through a sealed coin case which cannot be 100% at all. despite this, there are many coins out there touting these stickers and some even list higher values with these stickers too which is pure crap.

    Furthermore, MAC and CAC seem to give additional designations such as 90FBL meaning, 90% Full Bell Lines which is pure crap as nearly ALL Franklins that are NOT Full Bell Lines, are in fact, 90%.

    So, you can see these coins and watch the listings go higher but, I do not buy these or sell these and warn people of them yet, your choice. Good luck.
     
  6. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

    That’s the first time I read someone say ANACs is equal with NGC. Market-wise I think that’s incorrect based on a study not too long ago including input from dealers and others.
     
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  7. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    PCGS and NGC are the clear top 2. I think I lean slightly towards NGC.
     
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  8. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    Are those the coins you're thinking of submitting? Are they errors of some sort?
     
  9. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    CAC does not give out designations, CAC does not accept ANACS coins, please tell us where NGC owns ANACS, would also be curious to see where PCGS market valuations are below both
     
  10. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    WARNING! Check out anything :arghh::facepalm::(posted in red below:

    DANIEL HENRIQUEZ, posted: "NGC is the industry leader with ANACS equal since they are owned by the same company then, PCGS. That said though, be aware of and cautious of the 3rd party additional graders such as CAC and MAC. Although they state they confirm the grades of what NGC, ANACS or PCGS gives a coin, they do this through a sealed coin case which cannot be 100% at all. :facepalm::wacky: despite this, there are many coins out there touting these stickers and some even list higher values with these stickers too which is pure crap.

    Furthermore, MAC and CAC seem to give additional designations such as 90FBL meaning, 90% Full Bell Lines which is pure :bucktooth: crap [just as the rest of this comment] as nearly ALL Franklins that are NOT Full Bell Lines, are in fact, 90%.

    So, you can see these coins and watch the listings go higher but, I do not buy these or sell these and warn people of them yet, your choice. Good luck.


    ....and Good Luck to you also. ;) Hopefully, with a little research you my modify your "
    ex-pert" opinions.

    OP there are plenty of discussions about the TPGS's in the CT archive.
     
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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The top three are PCGS, NGC and ANACS. It all depends on your personal preferences and what you want out of the grading.
     
  12. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    +1

    Skip you beat me to it, just astounding how much misinformation he packed into a few paragraphs.
     
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  13. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    None of those coins are even close to being submission worthy. Regarding the Jefferson Nickels, the 1974-D & 1964-D are MS63, and the 1989-D is max MS65 FS which is about a $20 coin. When submitting Jefferson Nickels, you really need a lock MS66 coin with a shot at MS67 to be submission worthy.
     
  14. DANIEL HENRIQUEZ

    DANIEL HENRIQUEZ Active Member

    If you look into it, you will see that ANACS has been affiliated with NGC since NGC began and they are basically sister companies. It has been known that ANACS does not and will not give values on any coins as they promote their neutral standing in the numismatic community. NGC on the other hand is owned by a public company. You form your own opinion.
     
  15. DANIEL HENRIQUEZ

    DANIEL HENRIQUEZ Active Member

    Pardon me for noticing and pointing out but, your Ebay store ONLY has "for sale" coins and NO Auction coins. Could you explain this or do you not believe in the buyers choice to pay what the market believes is the value of the coin? Is this how you and others attempt to set prices on Ebay? Please explain.
     
  16. DANIEL HENRIQUEZ

    DANIEL HENRIQUEZ Active Member

    Here is what I received from a Seller on Ebay regarding a coin with a Mac sticker and is listed for $6,475 despite NGC valuing at ONLY $1,000:

    There prices can be up to 6 years old with a pop2 coins there is no way you can buy that coin when a dealer like me will pay $4,000 for the coin. We use macablege.com for our pricing which is up to date with over 2.6 million visitors.

    This is NOT opinion, this is fact. If you or others are willing to pay 4 X's a value for a coin that can't validate it's value as this Seller believes, I have plenty of coins to sell you so I can reap the rewards now. This is what Sellers are doing and they are attempting to "artificially" inflate coin prices on Ebay yet, I can only see donkeys and idiots paying these prices, not numismatists. Please respond.
     
  17. DANIEL HENRIQUEZ

    DANIEL HENRIQUEZ Active Member

    You are very correct, they give out stickers and place them on the outside of a coin's protective capsule that is sealed by NGC or PCGS. These stickers state additional variations or characteristics of a coin such as "90% FBL or 6 FS or even RNBO (rainbow). despite this "after market" sticker, many hold these 3rd party stickers companies as legitimate, affirming and possibly endorsed by NGC and PCGS which is completely incorrect and false. Then again, maybe you believe Mac and CAC and accept their inflated values even though they did this additional grading through a "sealed, plastic capsule"? I don't.
     
  18. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    DANIEL HENRIQUEZ, posted: "Here is what I received from a Seller on Ebay regarding a coin with a Mac sticker and is listed for $6,475 despite NGC valuing at ONLY $1,000:

    There prices can be up to 6 years old with a pop2 coins there is no way you can buy that coin when a dealer like me will pay $4,000 for the coin. We use macablege.com for our pricing which is up to date with over 2.6 million visitors.

    This is NOT opinion, this is fact. If you or others are willing to pay 4 X's a value for a coin that can't validate it's value as this Seller believes, I have plenty of coins to sell you so I can reap the rewards now. This is what Sellers are doing and they are attempting to "artificially" inflate coin prices on Ebay yet, I can only see donkeys and idiots paying these prices, not numismatists. Please respond."

    :rolleyes: :inpain: I don't discuss what donkeys or idiots :bucktooth: pay for coins :vomit: that are raw, slabbed, or stickered. I do have opinions on what their ilk :bucktooth: thinks.
     
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  19. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    The majority of people who have e-Bay stores use the BIN listing format, it is nothing more than a virtual coin shop. Do you walk into a B&M coin shop and tell the owner that his prices are unfair and that he needs to auction off his inventory?

    Furthermore, I have coins listed from prices ranging from a few dollars to thousands of dollars. Prices are based on existing price guides, and on most listings, I include the "best offer" option for people to negotiate the price. There is nothing unscrupulous about my eBay business practices, and your attempt to smear my business is nothing more than a low brow attempt to divert attention away from your ridiculous post.

    None of this changes that your original post in this thread was complete crap and full of misinformation. NGC does not own ANACS, they are not "sister" companies, they are not affiliated in any way. You made that ridiculous assertion, when challenged by @baseball21 you said "if you look into it". That isn't how it works you ridiculous dude, you made the assertion, time to back it up. Please show us proof that NGC owns ANACS.
     
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  20. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    WARNING the following :yack::yack::yack: is 100% false. That is a fact. :D

    "...ANACS has been affiliated with NGC since NGC began :jawdrop:o_O and they are basically sister companies." :facepalm::wacky:
     
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