Coin Grading

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ryanbrooks, Apr 19, 2008.

  1. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    What if a coin looks BU on the observe, but them it is messed up on the reverse? How would you grade that? Average it out?
     
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  3. Oldman

    Oldman New Member

    Thats too hard of a question for me lol. I would need to see a coin for an example. As condition and grades for each individual coin are subjective. I would think that if a coin looked BU on one side and beat-ta-heat on the other, it would not be BU at all.
     
  4. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Damaged. You have to judge by the worst side...

    Take Care
    Ben
     
  5. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Well, this coin is really uncirculated on the front, but dirty on the back.
     
  6. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Dirty is a different story. If the coin hasn't been damaged that is...
     
  7. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Yeah - seeing an example of what you are talking about makes a difference. Usually you go with the lower grade, but a weak strike would make a difference.
     
  8. jmc7983

    jmc7983 Senior Member

    Usually you lean more towards the lesser of the two values, but if it only dirty i am sure there is a way too "clean" it without decreasing the value as a "cleaned" coin, but yeah as you know, pictures are a must too determine how extensive the "damage" is.

    John
     
  9. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Really depends on the coin I guess, IMHO. I remember reading somewhere that the more traditional crowd says to grade by a coin's worse side, but actually you are supposed to grade like the obverse carries the coin. Say a coin is MS-65 on the obverse, and a 63 on the reverse, it probably could still go a 64 or a 65, depending on the obverse. But, like said many times, grading is subjective, and it is not only done my the number of marks, or dings in the coin, but by:

    Eye-appeal
    Luster
    Strike
    Marks (bag-marks)

    And a few other things I'm sure I've missed. I'm no pro at all, but this is what I've read, and can be entirely wrong. If so, I'm sure someone will come later and straiten it out. ;)

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  10. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Well, I would say MS-63 on the observe (at the least), and AU on the reverse becuase of the dirt. I will post pictures later on....
     
  11. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I don't believe dirt will knock a coin down to AU - wear yes, but not dirt alone. Assuming of course the dirt has not damaged the coin itself.
     
  12. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    No, just some weird black dirt... atleast I think it is dirt!
     
  13. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Any pics of the coin? That might help us a bit. If there is a wear, then it's definetly an AU, but if it's just some crud, then I think it just lowers it to a MS-60, but it all depends on the coin, and the dirt. ;)

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  14. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    you can't just have one side uncirculated
     
  15. srkjkd

    srkjkd Book before coin

    hi. damage is damage, which include rim dings, graffiti, ect. dirt is another story and at best your coin , even w/ the dirt removed, could have environmental surface damage orcorrosion. this will also result in a cleaned coin which also signifigantly lowers value.

    the besy option, and usually only used for expensive coins is using a numismatic conservation service. they have saved some really nice coins from environmmental damage. it will still be a "details" or cleaned coin. we really need a picture to comment too much. best wishes....... steve
     
  16. craig a

    craig a Coin Hoarder

    Yes you average it out. Kind of. Thats according to Jim Halperin's 'How to grade U.S. coins.'.
     
  17. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    I never said it was damaged! I said it was "messed up" as in there are things on the reverse that make it look dirty. I will post pictures later. Thank you all!
     
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