Coin bashers

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Hedderick, May 15, 2003.

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  1. Hedderick

    Hedderick New Member

    What is it with these people who bash every commemorative coin, no matter what? What's the problem with the Jamestown coin? Not even designed yet, and people are bashing.
     
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  3. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    I suspect that much of the problem is that most collectors decide when they begin collecting that they are going to ignore coins made before and after arbitrary dates based primarily on the coins they start with. Most collectors have collected for many years so just don't have any interest in any later date coins. It's easy to bash things that we don't collect, and can become even easier when we see others who do find great interest in them.
     
  4. laz

    laz New Member

    I think there's way too much politics in coin collecting.Special interest groups want their coins,and not coins for other special interests.It's all low level politics,and a prime example of why politics and coin collecting do not go hand in hand.I say down with dead Presidents and bring back American Liberty! ~ Jim
     
  5. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    Laz; I couldn't agree more. Symbolic coinage would be more attractive and appropriate for our great republic. It would also open up a much wider array of designs which could be used. The only real requirement for new designs should be that each looks like part of a whole. Each design should compliment the others as they do now and typically have throughout our history. Politics have always played a key role in US coin design, this is unlikely to change now.
     
  6. Bill Henderson

    Bill Henderson New Member

    I say, you can't please everyone, so you might as well not try to please anyone and just make nice coins.
     
  7. laz

    laz New Member

    Bill, I think your on to something!Now if we can just get Washington to understand! :roll: Back when the SBA Dollar was on the drawing boards,there was a moden rendition of our classic flowing hair design Liberty Head Dollar put forth but the powers that be decided to go ahead with the worse US coin design ever.What MUST they be thinking of? :oops: ~ Jim
     
  8. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Hammer at the Ready Moderator

    Yes, yes, coin design by committee was about the worst thing that ever happened in numismatics.
     
  9. rnealw

    rnealw loony bin Material

    Hey I say if it's collectable get one or two.
     
  10. Bill Henderson

    Bill Henderson New Member

    If you buy one or two of everything the mint puts out each year, you better get a second job. :roll:
     
  11. freedom

    freedom New Member

    Slave ship!!!!!!!!!!

    I would hate to say that it’s funny, but for my lack of a better word, it is all I have to describe the situation before me. As I count my pennies, nickels, and dimes, I think about how good it feels to have a bit of change lying around in my house. After I finish stacking my quarters, I pick up the top quarter to admire the engraved images on the back of Virginia series I notice the 3 ships depicted on the back of the coin. I look at the date focusing on 1607 and thought to myself, “At least one of those had to be a slave ship”, but I didn’t hear any prominent black leaders making a fuss over these images like the much controversy that arose over the stamps in Mexico. Mexican stamps are worthless to us, but we live and die for the accumulation of these coins that depict images of true racism. Who would have thought? The Jamestown coin passed by unanimous consent of 72 co-sponsors. Were any of them of African decent? I really don’t know, but my guess is, “probably not.”
     
  12. crystalk64

    crystalk64 Knight of the Coin Table

    I also think a whole lot of the problem is our leaders can't think out of the box. All they see is the same old U.S. History and they dare not look any farther! While I do buy commemoratives ocassionally it is getting very old very fast. There is much more to offer and while I believe the U.S. Mint is fully aware of that fact we have a self serving Congress who wishes only to pat itself or other special interests groups on the back. They really don't give a hoot what the average American thinks!
     
  13. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    freedom,

    I hate to say it but I have to say it. Your post is dopey [and I apologize to everyone else for the harsh term]. First of all, I don't think that the three ships that landed in Jamestown in 1607 carried slaves, or even women. I was taught that slavery came to America later in 1619. Nobody can anticipate all of the outrages people will imagine, and the committee can be excused for overlooking yours. Next someone will complain about the Indiana quarter because the race car emits greenhouse gases and noise polution. Or the Massachusetts quarter will outrage the anti-gun lobby. Or the Delaware quarter depicts cruelty to animals. Or the Vermont quarter honors the torture of trees. And so it goes, on and on while "sensitive" committee people dance around trying not to offend 250 million people with overactive imaginations and underused minds.

    I apologize for the post, but I sure feel better for having posted it.
     
  14. GaryBurke

    GaryBurke Senior Member

    Yep, Cloundsweeper is right.

    Same idea in education. Too much "feel good about yourself," and not enough do what's right.

    Look at the Quarter designs as what they were meant to be -- an attractive, positive representation of some of the state's history.

    :) :)
     
  15. SilverDollarMan

    SilverDollarMan Collecting Fool

    I agree CloudSweeper, 1st post too!
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    My objection to the Jamestown Commem is that we have already provided them with several years worth of free advertising with the VA quarter. Take a look at it. They used their state quarter to promote a planned celebration coming several years in the future. As far as I'm concerned they've already had their commem coin.
     
  17. coin roll guy

    coin roll guy da breadman

    Now greenhouse gases, I could go into a tirade about that farce but I won't
     
  18. freedom

    freedom New Member

    Cloudsweeper99, I appreciate your "dopey" criticism. Everyone has a right to have his or her own opinion. First of all what you may have been taught and what is true may have variable differences. As far as excusing the committee for overlooking the issue, you have no authority for what I will and will not excuse. If I were outraged, I would have written a letter to the press and not this "dopey" little bulletin board. It amuses me to see you write about "overactive imaginations and underused minds" in the same sentence because they, like oxy morons, simply cancel each other out. Just because you or a few other people I do not know feel your logic is sound or cogent does not necessarily mean that you are right. The slave trade might not have arrived on U.S. soil until a decade later, but that does not mean that one of those ships was not a slave ship. I was taught that the people who set voyage were a stock colony, meaning that they came here for the purpose of business. Slaves were the tools used for the business so if they had shovels and axes and other tools, then slaves were probably also included. The first documented slaves were not recorded until later, but besides the "feel good about yourself" problem in education, schools neglect to do what is right by not teaching people such as yourselves to think outside the box. I apologize for the post, but I sure feel better for having posted it. This topic was dead for years until I arrived on the seen and resurrected it.
     
  19. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    But why did you resurrect a dead post?!

    Especially when you are complaining about a "slave ship" that the accepted version of history says is not a slave ship at all!

    Your contention that one of those ships is a slave ship is the same as someone who says the holocaust never happened. The accepted version of history says that both of those statements is purely fiction.


    You seem to have joined this board just to resurect a dead thread and then try to begin a political debate. I'm just hoping this thread is closed soon since it has obviously strayed away from a discussion of coin collecting. That way it can return to being a dead thread.
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Fact of the matter is we don't know the answer. Another fact is that these kind of discussions have no place here - so discussion is ended.

    If you wish to discuss it further - please take it to the General Discussion Forum.
     
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