clipped planchet - at mint or not ?

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  1. Dialupsux

    Dialupsux Well-Known Member

    How do you tell if this happened at the mint or in the garage
    clipped p.jpg clipped edge.jpg
     
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  3. DarkRage666

    DarkRage666 Ͳìɾҽժղҽʂʂ Ͳąҟҽղ ටѵҽɾ

    I made this up (don't know if it works but) put another penny up to it the cut... if it matches I'd say at the mint... if not PMD
     
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  4. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    @DarkRage666 - Something about your hypothesis is extremely pleasing to my brain, but then...how would we get curved, straight, ragged, incomplete and elliptical planchet errors?

    (edited to remove reference to "clipped" planchet errors after Paddyman's post.)
     
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  5. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    Alan Herbert back in the 80's showed us this method at one of the CONECA
    meetings I attended. Glad to see others have discovered this authentication
    technique and are using it today. The "Blakesly Effect" isn't always present.
     
  6. DarkRage666

    DarkRage666 Ͳìɾҽժղҽʂʂ Ͳąҟҽղ ටѵҽɾ

    That I do not know... It was a spur of the moment type thing... I could be wrong? But it's great that you have something to challenge my theory! ;)
     
  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Show the entire coin. Need to see if the Blakesley effect is opposite of the clip..

    BTW.. They are not actually 'clipped'.. The correct terminology is Incomplete Planchet. They were never actually clipped.

    Looks like an Incomplete Planchet to me though ;)
     
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  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I do not see any grinding lines in the edge of your coin so I'm sure it's real. It would help to see the entire coin.
     
  9. Dialupsux

    Dialupsux Well-Known Member

    clip2.jpg
    rim is disturbed at 12oclock and 6 oclock, 8 oclock =Blakesly ???
    clip4.jpg
    new penny below is same size even though it doesn't look it. my camera snapped off its attachment so taking photos is getting to be a chore
     
  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    The other two issues could mean that you have a Double or even Triple Curved Clip. Just very minor..

    Here is an example from my collection a Triple Incomplete Planchet
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  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    And this one also from my collection
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  12. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    While the ‘clip’ starts as a match to another same coin, some distortion occurs during the strike
     
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  13. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    The edge shows the "cut and tear" characteristic. This is another good way to confirm you have a curved clipped planchet (not applicable for straight and ragged clips). Here is a link with a good explanation

    http://www.error-ref.com/blanking-and-cutting-errors/

    @paddyman98 I agree that incomplete planchet is a better description, I've been calling it a clip for so long, I probably cant change. :banghead:. But I did start using debris filled die instead of grease filled, so there may be hope
     
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  14. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

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    Gotta make me some more. Etsy was made for them
     
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