Cleaning coins

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Charles1997, Mar 24, 2014.

  1. Charles1997

    Charles1997 Well-Known Member

    Would it hurt the coins value to lightly wash it under water to get dirt off? Would soap hurt? I know you are never supposed to clean coins, but water seems harmless to me


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  3. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Distilled water, I wouldn't use soap.
     
  4. Charles1997

    Charles1997 Well-Known Member

    I distilled water just from a tap?


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  5. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    It's not so much the water people object to, it's how a person wipes or dries the coin, afterwards. Dremel aside, that is what causes the most surface damage.
     
  6. Charles1997

    Charles1997 Well-Known Member

    How should you dry it?


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  7. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Distilled is preferred as most chemicals and minerals are not present.

    Soap- no

    Air dry
     
  8. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    If you air dry a coin, spots can form on the surface. If you wipe a coin, hairlines will remain. That is why I do not clean my coins. I leave the obsessive compulsive cleaning hobbies to those who must clean. The cleaning of objects is in no way related to my hobby. I leave my coins as they are.

    Over 20 years and counting, without being cleaned...

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  9. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    I use distilled water to conserve certain pieces that are just to damaged
     
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  10. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    You'll get spots if there are minerals or salts in the water since they crystallize on the coin when the water dries. Not really a big deal with distilled.
     
  11. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    Thanks, good to know. But, like I said, cleaning is not my hobby. I'm out of the loop and I do not belong to any janitorial forum, where there might be an exchange of the best possible cleaning tips. I can not justify shopping for any type of cleaning supplies, when I can be buying beautiful, dirty, grimy, uncleaned, tarnished and toned coins with that money.

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  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    As said already, distilled water is what you want to use - not tap water. And never use soap.

    What wasn't said is that you only soak the coins in the water, do not rub the coin with your fingers, a cloth, a brush, or anything else - just soak it to remove what dirt & grime can be removed.

    To dry the coin, place a soft towel or cloth on your counter top next to the back splash. Stand the coin on edge, on the towel, and lean it up against the back splash. This allows any small drops of water accumulated in the depressions to drain away and not dry on the coin. Allow to air dry for 24 hrs.
     
  13. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Woah what's up with that coin? It looks really off.
    For example: The double headed eagle's eyes are missing, the scepter is "broken" and not completely straight, there is missing details around the center shield, the wreath and ribbon are different than other examples I've seen of this date/mint. The 4 in the date is totally wrong and should not bear a crosslet serif, the letters are somewhat misshapen, especially the 0's in the date and denomination. Also the surface has a rough appearance with tiny bubbles or bumps.
    I've never seen a fake of this pretty common coin, but this one doesn't look right at all.

    EDIT: Apologies for going off topic.
     
  14. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

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  15. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Very interesting, I would not have expected such a crude regal issue from the Moscow mint during that period. Cool stuff
     
  16. Charles1997

    Charles1997 Well-Known Member

    How long should it soak for?


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  17. torontokuba

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    I would take it out just before the rust spots show up.;)
     
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  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Sigh...you are going to run up against the cleaning police. Mostly they are right, but there are exceptions and you have to use common sense (which I admit I sometimes lack). Depending on the type of coins, there is cleaning and cleaning (sorry Doug, harsh cleaning). If it is an ancient coin, all bets are off, many cleaning methods apply. If it is a moderately modern mint state issue, be careful...be very careful...the finish can be damaged either chemically or mechanically...you should never rub or even touch the surface if at all possible and should use only the purest and least damaging chemicals (i.e. distilled water). If it is somewhere in-between, other options open up. The coin torontokuba showed is fine to leave the way it is. A coin this worn is not expected to be blast white and it would be suspicious if it were. On the other hand, you could have surface contaminants that would eventually harm the coin if allowed to stay on there. In this case, a water bath can't hurt. How long to leave it in the water, I would probably think that any benefit of more than a few hours to a day would be doubtful. As to the kind of water, the initial soak could be in tap water (hot would be best for removing any surface gunk that can be removed with water), but you should finish up with a thorough distilled water rinse to remove any minerals from the tap water. For drying, Doug is, as usual correct that it would be best to stand them on edge, but as this is easier said than done, if the coins are worn, it is hard to envision any damage from putting them face down on a soft cotton towel and blotting (never rub) them and letting them dry. Soap...that is another story.
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Actually it's very easy, almost beyond easy, to stand the coins on edge on a towel and lean up against the back splash of the counter top.
     
  20. Charles1997

    Charles1997 Well-Known Member

    So a few hours should be good to soak it it?


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  21. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    You can always soak a second time, but you can never take back the first soak.

    (Actually it's very easy, almost beyond easy, to stand the coins on edge on a towel and lean up against the back splash of the counter top.)
    Silly me, I was trying to balance them.
     
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