Cleaned Flying Eagles

I recieved another flying eagle in the mail today. If you recall, I posted one I got which was graded VF20 a while ago, and that coin was so very dark, with little eye appeal. The one I got today has a bit more detail in the Eagles feathers althoug the wreaths on the reverse are a bit more faded.

However, I;m looking at this coin and it seems cleaned. It clearly has a slanted wiped like marks in the coin and the arears around the letters has black stuff in it. What do you think. I'm a little anoyed because this might be the second cleaned or even whizzed coin I got through the mail this week.

I'll show you the other on a follow up.

BTW - I paid $45 (52 including shipping) for this coin. Do you think I got ripped ?

Ruben

 

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BTW - I think this is one of the great designs which is why I collect them. Just check out how the light ripples off the top arch of the wing while the bird is in flight. Its almost as if it is a three dimensional scupture.

Ruben

 

I say this is a cleaned coin....also the rim nick by the 18.
Either way I would send it back...I don't think that was a good price IMO and the cleaning and rim nick seems to take it down.

Speedy

 

I paid $35 (shipped) for the one below. Reverse on mine seems much better, yours seems to have better details on the wing, but less on the beak and feet. I agree that you could probably do better for the price.

 

Dag-gone that went high.....my dealer was just saying today that he went to a show and saw that most of his prices were low when you looked at others....I guess he was right.
Most of his FE Cents are way below $35 when he gets them....

Speedy

 

Yes the coin in the PCGS slab shows weekness in AMER....and not as much detail in the eagle.
I would amost say that the PCGS coin has been cleaned at sometime....I see dirt around the wreath but I guess that could just be from circulation....I don't see any hairline that would point to that.

Speedy

 

Wow - the coin went for twice what mine went for and also looks cleaned. I wonder if that indicates the market, however. I'm not return mine. For $40 its not worth it, but I'll remember that dealer.


Ruben

 

Where did you get that one from?

Reuvain

 

Did PCSG grade a washed coin?

 

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This is impossible, right?

 

Hi,
I don't think you got ripped. If what I see in the scan is accurate, you have a serious doubled die of some sort. Look at the last "S" of STATES and the "O" in OF. I'd be curious to see if you can see any other doubling on the coin.
Thanks,
Bill

 

i don't know. I never see what others do in this regard. I looked under the magnifi\ying glass last night (and note that the scan is usually more accurate) and I seem something superficial on the 'S' but I'm not convinced its a double die.

Ruben

 

I wish I had a way to show the 1858 small date Flying Cent my father left for me. I seem to think it's got to be at least AU. Unfortunately the rest of his Indian Head collection are borderline slugs

I think i'm the modern age collector.. I don't seem to appreciate collecting from pocket change like my father did. I think he probably spent $25.00 for Whitman books, and that was it... Ok I'm a bad whiner

 

Hi,
I took your scan, cropped around the "S" then fooled with the color a little just to give you an idea of what to look for. Look at the top of the "S" closely and you see a second "S".
There appears to be a line in the "O" of OF that may be the doubling of the letter "O"
If you can get a bigger picture of the S and O, It would be interesting to see. It still smells like die doubling to me
Have Fun,
Bill