(For anyone interested I am creating tutorials for classes of Doubled Dies on my website http://www.lincoln-cents.cuvelier.org/index.html - I have I, III, IV and V finished, here is IV) Class IV (Offset Hub Doubling) This class of Doubled Die is produced when two hubbings have their centers misaligned. It is characterized as having doubling that is evenly spread in one direction unlike Classes I & V where the misalignment-event shows rotation at or near the center (I) or at or near the rim (V). Doubling is often rounded, found closer to the center and when identified on numeric or alphabetic characters, shows notching. It has been hypothesized that the reason many examples do not show doubling near the rim is because the first hubbing only received a partial hubbing. Such an incomplete hubbing would result in design elements not being pressed deep enough in the middle of the die, and not at all along the perimeters; remember the die originates in a conical shape until it is completely pressed down so the outer devices may not have been hubbed the first time around. A few examples that show doubling primarily in the center portions are 1909P DDO-001; 1941P DDO-005 (1DO-006); 1942P DDO-002 (1DO-005); and 1942S DDO-001 Below is a facsimile of a fictitious 1960P with a strongly doubled Class IV DDO. In this case the first hubbing would have been centered and complete with the second hubbing having its center oriented N-NE from the first. It should be noted that this example is showing universal doubling on all design elements (including the whole portrait) which has never been documented. Below is 1983P DDR-001, which exhibits a large spread going North, it is stronger than the above hypothetical, but the central elements only show doubling around the parameter of the memorial and in a few sections of the building itself (like the upper portions of the columns). Notice the notching (a clear indication of hub doubling), rounded secondary images and how the secondary hubbing shifts consistently in one direction. Next we will find two overlays demonstrating that the ’83 DDR has simply a wide north shift in the hubbings. In the second picture green is first hubbing followed by red second (the first hubbing appears as if it were on the first). 1983 DDR-001 details: Another bold example, yet displaying only a partial first hubbing is 1984P DDO-001, with its widely doubled ear, beard details, back of head and bow tie. This DDO also appears to be ever so slightly rotated as the second piece of the bowtie resides further away proportionally than the second ear. If correct, the center of rotation would be off at least a centimeter to the side of the die past IN of IGWT. Notches: As has been pointed out by most variety specialists and attributers: notching, even though the doubled areas are shallow, is always, to a degree, present. MD will seemingly smear the doubled area away from the device impacted but it will not leave notches, how could MD leave notches? …Think about it while viewing a fictitious notching diagram of Class IV doubling going south illustrated below. While the degree of doubling is strong, there would be clear evidence of notching whereas MD would have pushed or flattened metal over the areas that display notching. To keep on the present track, our final examples are 1909 DDO-001 and 1942S DDO-001. Like ’84 DDO-001 these DDOs have isolated doubling that is consistent in one direction. An important note is that while to a seasoned variety collector they do not look like Machine Doubling (MD), many illustrations in books and on the web, to a degree, makes it seem similar to MD as the doubling is shallow, nevertheless, there is always notching to a degree. The illustrations that follow have black arrows to show doubled areas and white arrows showing notches.
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Hi, Extremely well done, but I must play the devil's advocate for a second, on one point, to get your take on a possible clarification. When you begin to mention "slight rotation" on the 1984 P DDO-001, you touch on the possibilities that the DDO is Class I, or Class V, as these classes involve rotated hubs. Your mention of rotation might also indicate a Combination of Classes. Can you flesh that out for us? Thanks, Bill
Thanks for asking Bill. The rotation of my '84P DDO-001 overlay suggests it is too far from the rim (I think ) to be considered a Class V DDO as Class V Hub Doubling involves a pivot point generated by a clogged notch. The center of rotation (if I am correct) would be maybe a centimeter or so past the rim on the other side of LIBERTY. That's the only way I can account for the location of the bow tie within the folds of the coat as it is not due south of the normal bow tie - the die had to be slightly rotated or the piece of the bow tie is not the bow tie or from a third hubbing (which I doubt). I was planning on emailing my overlay to a few experts and getting their opinion first before posting it.
You are actually are on the right track....most people consider the coin a Class IV...some suggest that because of exactly what you've discovered, the coin might be a hybrid Class. I'm not sure where I stand on it yet as I've not played with images and overlays. In any case, this is why I brought up the question and you are moving in a good direction as you get to the answer You are thinking this out beautifully. Just keep in mind that a rotation at a pivot point indicates a Class V Doubled die. I might suggest doing the overlays again making sure that the images are lined up perfectly. If the beard and ear line up perfectly in the overlay, You may find that what you think is a rotated bow tie turns out to be just a bow tie with a little gas bubble effecting it. This is not the answer to your question, but I think this will lead you in the right direction even further. In a separate post, show us the overlays Have Fun, Bill
