Clashing Waves of Tarentum

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  1. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I've been jealous of the waves on the Tarentum staters of some of our members here for awhile now, and even though I have several of these dolphin riders, up until now I didn't have an example featuring waves. In particular, I admired the stylish curve of the waves on @Collect89's stater and @dougsmit's fourree, and readily admit that the waves on my new one aren't anywhere as nice. On the other hand, a die clash on the obverse produced a couple of incuse waves below the hindquarters of the horse, and as a result, the wave count on my coin is technically higher than either of theirs. So there :p.

    Tarentum - Nomos Die Clash.jpg
    CALABRIA, Tarentum
    AR Stater. 7.64g, 21.7mm. CALABRIA, Tarentum, circa 380-340 BC. Vlasto 445 (same obv die). O: Nude helmeted warrior on horseback to left, holding reins in right hand, and shield and spear in left; Δ below horse. R: Taras seated astride dolphin to left, holding trident over shoulder; K and waves below, TAPAΣ to right.
    Notes: As noted in Vlasto, "the obv. die must have struck the rev. die without blank and thus got damaged."
     
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  3. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Please feel free to share your coins of Tarentum, BTW. Here are the other dolphin riders in my small pod, from most recently acquired to earliest...

    Tarentum - Nomos Owl 2351 New2018.jpg
    Tarentum - Nomos Hippocamp 2244 new.jpg
    Tarentum - Nomos Vlasto 2073 new.jpg
    Tarentum - Nomos Small Dolphin new.jpg
    Tarentum - Nomos - Prow.jpg
    Tarentum - Nomos 1st New 2017.jpg
     
  4. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Congrats on a great catch zumbly, it compliments your set of silver Tarentum wonderfully great set of coins.
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Oh, I like the waves! Haven't had one of these dolphin-riders yet.

    ... Yet. ;)
     
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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    PS-

    Iridescent toning and a great little owl along for the ride? Love this one.

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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Thanks! That's exactly what drew me to this coin. That owl is like, "You're kidding, right... I'm supposed to ride on the back of a what?"
     
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  8. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Beautifull collection zumbly , great pics. I like the owl as well , so I bought this one:

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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator


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  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Nice new addition to the pod. You have how many now? I still have none :arghh: :(
     
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  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Seven, with another five to go to make my Twelve Dolphin-Riders set :D.

    Yes, but when you finally get one, we know it will be awesome.
     
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  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I'm sure when @TIF gets one, it will not only be awesome, but will also come with an amusing TIF-GIF animation! :D
     
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  13. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    One for each of the Suetonius Caesars. That's just good sense :D

    I'm not so sure about that. Awesome examples are expeeeeensive and like certain other series (COL NEMs come to mind), it's a matter of picking which problems you can live with. There are a couple of dies that i'm looking out for. The right dies at the right time at the right price... tall order.

    That I will certainly do :D
     
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  14. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    It is impossible to only want a single Tarentum nomos but so far, I've been outbid on the others I've chased.

    Here's my example, which I was lucky to snag from an auction where the vibrant toning wasn't as visible:

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  15. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Wow, that obverse is simply exceptional! The iridescent tone is lovely, it's perfectly centered and complete, and even the waves are nicely styled. Of course, there are only four of them... :D.
     
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  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @zumbly Your Tarentum collection is fantastic! well done. The waves on your OP are incredible, and the obv incuse is very cool! Congrats!

    I regret I do not have one. I have seriously thought about bidding hard (because of several of your prior postings), but have not gotten serious yet. I will... :)

    My ONLY Tarentum!
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    Calabria Tarentum AR Drachm 18mm 3.1g 3rd C BCE Athena Corinthian helmet Scylla OWL olive TAP ZOP HN Italy 975 Vlasto 1052
     
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  17. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Thanks. I still really need a drachm like yours... can't believe I still haven't gotten one :shame:.
     
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  18. TheRed

    TheRed Well-Known Member

    That is a great collection @zumbly you have some beautiful coins from Tarentum. I would love to add one to my collection at some point.
     
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  19. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    :) A collection by wave count would be a great excuse to buy more! I've toyed with collecting Olynthus tetradrachms by string count but ultimately it's financially challenging to go deep into any particular type when my collecting focus is so broad.
     
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  21. Agricantus

    Agricantus Allium aflatunense

    Zumbly, is the flan wavy, too?
     
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