Choose the Leopold

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Drusus, May 24, 2007.

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Which Leopold Would YOU Choose

  1. 1. Austria. Vienna. Leopold I (1657-1705). Silver 15 Kreuzer 1684. Choice XF.

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  2. 2. Austria Carynthia. Leopold I (1657-1705). Silver 15 Kreuzer 1663. NGC VF25. Rare

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  1. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    I have a problem. I am lookin to get my hands of a Leopold I coin and I have found 2 that I like, but for different reasons...just wondering...if you could buy one or the other of these two leopold (hogsmouth) coins, which would you go for?

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    1. I love this portrait (and that is a big plus)...it really shows the hog mouth and has good realism. Its well struck and not terribly worn. Good all around typical Leopold I coin. There is a crack of course and the reverse has some problems:

    Austria. Vienna. Leopold I (1657-1705). Silver 15 Kreuzer 1684. Choice XF.

    Country Austria.
    Reign Leopold I (1657-1705).
    Denomination 15 Kreuzer
    Date Struck 1684
    Mint Vienna
    Obv: Laureate draped and cuirsassed bust right, value in Roman below.
    Rev: Crowned Imperial Arms dividing 16-84 at the top, min tmark below.
    Weight 6.32 gm.
    Diameter 29 mm
    Reference KM#1170


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    1. I like the protrait on this one but its more cartoony and the hogsmouth is not nearly as pronounced. Details on this coin are strong with real attractive toning. less of a typical Leopold I coin. I is also a more rare type than above:

    Austria Carynthia. Leopold I (1657-1705). Silver 15 Kreuzer 1663. NGC VF25. Rare

    Country Austria Carynthia.
    Reign Leopold I (1657-1705).
    Denomination 15 Kreuzer
    Date Struck 1663
    Mint St. Veit
    Obv: Laureate draped and cuirsassed bust right, value in Roman below.
    Rev: Crowned Imperial Arms with oval state shield on chest and mint mark below.
    Weight 6 gm.
    Diameter 29 mm
    Reference KM#1302.
    Grade NGC graded and certified as VF25.
     
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  3. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    I like them both but #1 just edged it as he seems to be foaming at the mouth LOL

    :D
     
  4. tcore

    tcore Coin Collector

    The design and detail of the first coin is definitely better executed. However, I don't like the crack (I do realize that it's hammered) and the second coin has the rarity thing going for it.

    Oh, I also like that the second coin is slabbed by NGC, but that's a personal preference.
     
  5. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    I voted for number one, prefer the design. Shame about the damge though. Let us know what ya choose.
    :thumb: Both are very nice coins, though. :thumb:

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  6. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Its a hard pick, I like them both and for different reasons
     
  7. AnemicOak

    AnemicOak Coin Hoarder

    Both are pretty nice. If I was choosing between the two for myself I'd probably go with #2.
     
  8. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

    #2 is my pick. Grabs my attention much more than the first.
     
  9. kiwi01

    kiwi01 Senior Member

    I like #2. Slabbed and rare has to be a winning combo.
     
  10. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    An austrian coin is worth less, not more if it is slabbed on the european market. I would go for the first one, you rarely see them quite that choice.
     
  11. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    i like #1, only because #2 just doesnt look real to me. goofy little portrait for sure :D
     
  12. swick

    swick New Member

    HEY.......you only live once! Buy them BOTH!!!

    swick
     
  13. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    I would like to but I only have enough allocated for one :( Wish I could get a buy one get one free deal :)
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Examples of the first coin will always be readily availabe, and most likely in better condition. Examples of the second coin will not be readily available.

    Go with the second ;)
     
  15. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    I prefer the second...but I know nothing about either of these coins ;) so choose what you will. :)
     
  16. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    Okay, I think this clicked. I like the portrait on the Vienna more but you are right. The other is more rare...and it is simply an outstanding coin in great shape...I think you are right that not only can I find the first again as there are many out there for sale...I may even be able to fine it in better shape and cheaper...so I went for the Carynthia with the intention of getting a good example of the other down the line (I DO want a good example of that coin as I think the portrait is excellent)...thanks for the help everyone...seldom have I been so torn between coins...
     
  17. kiwi01

    kiwi01 Senior Member

     
  18. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    The Old HogMouth... #1
     
  19. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    I voted for Coin 2,as it looks very attractive,as Coin 1 looks like it has been cleaned.

    Aidan.
     
  20. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    This thread keeps getting hit by spamers so I'm going to lock it for the time being.

    Speedy
     
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