Chemistry Class with a 1879-S Morgan

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  1. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    Ok,,,heres my lattest pickup...a nice Unc. (MS-63ish Im thinking) Morgan raw, dated 1879-S. I go for quality and the obv. is a nice pl with Morgans face having amazing frost for the grade... The rev. is prob a MS-64 but unfortunatly with little frost or mirrors...Now I eventually (after my Gettysburg comes back in maybe a month +) would like to send this Morgan in to NGC and be slabbed/// however I would also like to remove some of the toning that has occured over the yrs and do not have any of the silver dip stuff that most people use ... I would like to hear any suggestions about how with home-products one can NOT clean a coin but "take it for a bath." Now I like orig. coins and hate overdipped Morgans so Im not looking to soak it in HCL acid for 24 hrs or something like that. Also I have included pics of the ribbon on the rev. and just from hearing around with VAMs that there is one where there appear to be horizontal lines insidethe ribbon which I believe may be the case here...any comments on that are also much appreciated Ive visited VAMworld but cant seem to pin-point it...Happy New Year to all and heres to another yr of coincollecting :D:D
    -Dom
     

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  3. Kevo

    Kevo Junior Member

    Nice looking coin. I would not dip this one, as you will probably lose all that frost. Obverse looks PL to me, but hard to tell from those pics.
     
  4. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    Congrats on the coin. Get an expert's opinion before dipping.
     
  5. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    ooo ok..I had assumed that the frost would remain but if it could come off...def. not worth it thanks alot!!!!!
     
  6. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    An acid-thiourea dip is the only "safe" method. You'd better know exactly what you're doing if you use it. If you soak that coin in HCl, you will completely ruin it. Use of the classic coin solvents will be completely ineffective. Best to leave this coin alone IMO.
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Your photos don't provide enough detail to attribute it. I don't know how thoroughly you searched VAMWorld, but here is the page you need to search.

    Chris

    1879-S Reverse of 1879, Slanted Arrow Feather, Short Nock
    C3a - Mint mark centered and upright
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-1 Normal Die, Closed 9
    1879-S VAM-1C Pitted Face
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-1A Polished 8 [​IMG]
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-1B Hair Ribbon [​IMG]
    1879-S VAM-2 Open 9
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-16 Double 9
    [​IMG] 1879-S VAM-16A Double 9, Gouge in Bow
    [​IMG] 1879-S VAM-16B Doubled 9, Polished Reverse
    1879-S VAM-20 Doubled 18
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-26 Doubled 879, Thread-Like Impression Eye
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-28 Doubled 1-9
    1879-S VAM-29 Doubled 9 and Right Obverse
    1879-S VAM-32 Doubled 9
    1879-S VAM-38 Doubled 879
    1879-S VAM-40 Doubled 18-9
    1879-S VAM-41 Doubled Stars and Date
    1879-S VAM-44 Possible 7 in Denticles, Doubled 87, Sextupled Stars
    1879-S VAM-48 Doubled Date, Tripled Stars & Motto
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-48A Doubled Date, Tripled Stars & Motto, Beauty Mark Die Chip
    1879-S VAM-55 Doubled 87
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-63 Doubled Lower Hair
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-64 Doubled 87
    1879-S VAM-65 Open 9, Gouge in Bow
    1879-S VAM-70 Open 9, Overpolished Eagle's Head
    1879-S VAM-75 Doubled Profile, Bulging Stars, Gouge in Bow, Over Polished Reverse.
    1879-S VAM-76 Doubled/Quadrupled 187 & Stars
    1879-S VAM-76A Doubled/Quadrupled 187 & Stars, Die Break below 9

    C3b - S Tilted Left
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-3 Doubled 9
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-18 Doubled Date
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-18A Doubled Date, S Tilted Left, Obverse Polishing Lines
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-22 Doubled Date
    1879-S VAM-27 Doubled Date
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-36 Polished 8, Cootie Impression on Jaw, S/S Tilted Left [​IMG]
    1879-S VAM-69 Doubled Date & Stars, S Tilted Right
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-73 Doubled 189, S Tilted Left, Die Chips Below 18


    C3c - S/S Left
    1879-S VAM-11 S/S Left
    [​IMG] 1879-S VAM-11A S/S Left, Die File Line Tail Feathers
    1879-S VAM-12 S/S Left
    [​IMG] 1879-S VAM-12A S/S Left, Die File Line Tail Feathers

    C3d - S/S Right
    1879-S VAM-13 S/S Right
    1879-S VAM-53 Doubled 87, S/S Right

    C3e - S/S Middle
    [​IMG] 1879-S VAM-14 S/S Middle
    1879-S VAM-68 Doubled 7, S/S Middle

    C3f - S/S
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-15 Double 18 and S/S
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-17 Doubled Date and S/S
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-54 Doubled 9, S/S Right

    C3g - S/S Tilted Left
    1879-S VAM-19 S/S Tilted Left

    C3h - S/S High
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-21 Doubled Date, S/S High

    C3i - S/S Far Left
    1879-S VAM-30 S/S Far Left

    C3j - S Set Left
    1879-S VAM-31 Doubled 879, S Set Left

    C3k - S Set Right
    1879-S VAM-33 Doubled 18-9, S Set Right
    1879-S VAM-71 S Set Right, Over Polished reverse

    C3l - S/S Line
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-37 S/S Line

    C3m - S/S Bar Top Loop
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-45 (Privately made) S/S Bar Top Loop, Rough Left Wreath

    C3n - Doubled Right Reverse
    1879-S VAM-47 Doubled Date, Sextupled Stars, Doubled Right Reverse

    C3o - S/S Far Right
    1879-S VAM-49 Doubled Date, S/S Far Right

    C3p - Over Polished Wreath Bow
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-57 Open 9, Over Polished Wreath Bow

    C3q - Doubled Top Reverse
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-58 Doubled Top Reverse

    C3r - S/S Lower Loop Tilted Left
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-59 Doubled 879, S/S Lower Loop Tilted Left

    C3s - Doubled Lower Reverse
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-60 Quadrupled Stars & Date, Doubled Lower Reverse

    C3t - Tripled Left Wreath
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-61 Doubled 8, Sextupled Stars, Tripled Left Wreath

    C3u - Over Polished Lower Reverse
    [​IMG]1879-S VAM-62 Doubled Profile, Over Polished Lower Reverse

    C3v -

    C3w - Overpolished Lower Reverse
    1879-S VAM-74 Engraved Tailfeather, Over Polished Reverse
     
  8. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    haha wow...thanks
     
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