Caracalla - Genius of the Senate

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  1. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    Thursday noon I was a bit down as I got stomped on a coin I had wanted at auction. Then this arrived late afternoon via post and I had forgotten all about my earlier loss and felt even better once I had released my aggression :happy:

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    Caracalla (198-217), AR Denarius. Rome mint, AD 214.
    Obv: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG GERM - Laureate head right.
    Rev: P M TR P XVII COS IIII P P - Genius of the Senate, togate, standing left, holding branch and scepter.
    19.98mm, 3.7g. XF/aMS.
    RIC IV, Part I, 246 ; RSC III 247 ; Sear II 6833


    Now I'm after a Geta . . .

    Post a Caracalla / Geta / broken slab OR your Volusian, Pupienus, Balbinus with this same reverse
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Freeeeeeeedom! Nothing like a little crack to lift your spirits, huh? :D


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    I had a big ol' crack party one night last year :)

    Here's one of the liberated coins:

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    ROMAN REPUBLIC, M. Piso M.f. Frugi
    58 BCE (redated from Crawford's 61 BCE by Hersh and Walker, 1984)
    AR denarius, 20 mm, 3.94 gm
    Obv: terminal bust of Mercury right, wearing winged diadem; calix below chin; to left, star above wreath; dotted border
    Rev: M·PISO·M·F / FRVGI above secespita (sacrificial knife) and patera; all within laurel wreath
    Ref: Crawford 418/2b; Sydenham 825; Calpurnia 23
    formerly in an NGC slab

    Seems like a good thread to show (again) my Crack 'Em Out shirt. I designed the fabric, had it printed to jersey, and sewed up a nice blouse to wear to CICF 2016, where I wore the garment and pointedly showed it to David Michaels of Heritage :D

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    Closeup of the fabric repeat:

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  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

  5. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Sweet. I bet its happy to breath our, uh air.
    FREEDOM :cool:
     
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  6. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Beautiful denarius! A wonderful consolation prize. And nice to see it can breath now!
     
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  7. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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  9. 4to2centBC

    4to2centBC Well-Known Member

    I committed the ultimate of sins, I cracked a US coin out of a slab....
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    because it had to be done.

    1861 $20 AU55 ANACS. The base of the first 1 in the date is repunched south. This apricot-gold double eagle is nicely struck and has only a single mentionable mark, seen on Liberty's jaw. Careful rotation beneath a lens reveals wispy hairlines, but luster illuminates design elements. The 1861 double eagle was the initial Civil War issue and a workhorse date with 2.9 million business strikes minted. Most saw considerable circulation but some, such as this coin, show only light wear. High grade examples of any date are rarities. The great size and weight of these coins caused most pieces to suffer numerous contact marks and abrasions.
    Mint Philadelphia Mintage 2,976,453 Wt 33.436 gms Diameter 34mm AGW .9675 oz
    From the Collection of Donald E. Bently, sold for the benefit of the Bently Foundation.(Registry values: N991) (NGC ID# 269G, PCGS# 8932)
    Heritage Auctions Feb 2014

    Here is my Caracalla

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    SYRIA, Seleucis and Pieria. Antioch. Caracalla. AD 198-217. AR Tetradrachm (27mm, 13.49 g, 6h). Struck AD 211-212. Laureate head right / Eagle standing facing, head right, with wreath in beak and wings spread; star to upper left and right. McAlee 673; Prieur 212. Good VF. Struck on a broad flan. CNG 377 6/29/16
     
  10. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    Lovely Caracalla! I've been nabbing a few myself lately (plus some old ones):
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    Imperial Rome
    Caracalla, r. 198-217 A.D. (199 A.D.)
    Rome Mint, AR Denarius, 18.96 mm x 3.76 grams
    Obv.: IMP CAE M AVR ANT AVG P TR P II. Laureate, draped bust right
    Rev.: SPES PVBLICA. Spes advancing left holding flower and raising hem of skirt
    Ref.: RIC IV-1 Caracalla 28, p. 216

    Anc-08b-R3-k0203-Caracalla-DE-130a.jpg
    Imperial Rome
    Caracalla, r. 198-217 A.D. (203 A.D.)
    Rome Mint, AR Denarius, 20.4mm x 3.21 grams
    Obv.: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG, laureate and draped bust right
    Rev.: INDVLGENTIA AVGG, IN CARTH in ex, Dea Caelestis seated facing on lion galloping right over rushing waters, holding thunderbolt and scepter
    Ref.: RIC IV-1 Caracalla 130a, p. 231.

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    Imperial Rome
    Caracalla, r. 198-217 A.D. (205 A.D.)
    Rome Mint, AR Denarius, 19.17mm x 3.3. grams
    Obv.: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG, Laureate bust right, draped
    Rev.: LIBERALITAS AVGG V, Liberalitus standing left, holding abacus and cornucopia
    Ref.: RIC IV-1, 136b, p 232.

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    Imperial Rome
    Caracalla, r. 198-217 A.D. (211 A.D.)
    Rome Mint, AR Denarius, 20.28mm x 2.8 grams
    Obv.: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG BRIT. Laureate bust, right
    Rev.: P M TR P XIIII COS III P P. Pax, draped, advancing left, holding branch in right hand and sceptre in left hand
    Ref.: RIC IV-1 Caracalla 184, p. 238.

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    Provincial Rome - Cilicia
    Caracalla, r. 198-217 A.D.
    Tarsus, AE Tetrassarion, 35.12 mm x 19.1 grams
    Obv.: AΥT KAI M AYP CEYEPOC ANTΩNEINOC. Bust right, in robes of demiourgos, Π left and right
    Rev.: ANTΩNEINIANH CEYHP AΔPIA. Emperor standing left, sacrificing over altar, wearing toga, A/M/K left, Γ/B right, TAPCOY/ΛN in

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    Provincial Rome - Thrace
    Caracalla, r. 198-217 A.D.
    Hadrianopolis, AE 26, 25.88 x 11 grams
    Obv.: AVT K M AVR CE ANTΩNEINOC. Laureate bust right
    Rev.: AΔRIANO-ΠOΛEITΩN. Pan standing right, with horns and legs of goat, holding crook next to head and lionskin fleece over left arm, left foot on panther lying on its back
    Ex. DC Collections

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    Provincial Rome - Phrygia
    Caracalla, r. 198-217 A.D.
    Hieropolis, AE30, 30 mm x 12.36 grams
    Obv.: AV K M AVP ANTΩNΕINO/C. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right
    Rev.: ΙΕ POΠ ΛEITΩN. Nemesis, wearing polos, standing facing, head right, holding rein or halter. To right Serapis, enthroned left with Cerberus at feet.
     
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  11. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    haha! while it doesn't bother me to have coins entombed, i do like this TIF. maybe you can make me a kerchief of it:)
     
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  12. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    i cried because i had no shoes, till i saw a person who had no feet..
     
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  13. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    Excellent TIF!!! I love your liberated M. Piso M.f. Frugi and that Cracked Slab Fabric is Outstanding! I think not a blouse for me but something like this might be ok:
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  14. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    I have a couple hundred slabbed US coins and don't think I have the guts to break them out, but seem to have no qualms whatsoever in freeing the ancients. I congratulate you on sinning with that 1861 Double Eagle and I'm sure hefting unplasticized gold feels joyous! Your Caracalla Tet is sweet!!
     
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  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I have none of those mentioned but this Antoninus Pius spells out the reverse subject.
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  16. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    Hi Doug, do you agree with the generally modern recognition that the reverse of my Caracalla is GENIO SENATVS? RIC states "Emperor in togate" but I've described as most are nowadays as "Genius of the Senate".
     
  17. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I do not know on what basis the RIC description was changed. Either seems reasonable.
     
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  18. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

  19. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    There are often cases where the emperor appears to replave a deity/god/personification on coins where we see emperor as ...... In these cases this is implied by the addition of a laurel wreath. In this case there is no sign of a laurel wreath and I cannot see any such justification.
     
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  20. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Your abilities never cease to amaze me.
     
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  21. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Caracalla: NICE job @dadams ! Coin and freedom...

    My Caracalla:
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    RI Caracalla 198-217 AR Denarius MONETA

    And his wife:
    RI Plautilla 202-205 CE m CaracallaAR Denarius 3.7g Concordia patera scepter RIC 363.jpg
    RI Plautilla 202-205 CE m Caracalla AR Denarius 3.7g Concordia patera scepter RIC 363
     
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