Caracalla, barbaric style AE14 of Carrhae, Mesopotamia.

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  1. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    Caracalla, barbaric style AE14 of Carrhae, Mesopotamia.interesting coin barbaric imitation. But I have confidence that my coin Caracal. There are signs all the same, but different portraits. What is your Emperor on the coin?
    http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/caracalla/_carrhae_BMC_015_2.jpg



    Elagabalus, AE16 of Carrhae, Mesopotamia. AYT ANTWNEINOC, radiate head right / KAR KOL M P, crescent and one star on globe and serpents. Mionnet V, 31a.
    http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/elagabalus/_carrhae_Mionnet_V_31a.jpg



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  3. Cyrrhus

    Cyrrhus Well-Known Member

    nice coin but do not understand your question...
     
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  4. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    Question: What is your Emperor on the coin?
     
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  5. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    I don't think yours is barbarous. Very nice example though.

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    Mesopotamia, Carrhae. Elagabalus AE17
    Obv: Radiate bust right.
    Rev: KAΡAKOMH, Crescent with star, pendant fillets and pellet below.
    17mm and 2.8g.
     
  6. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

  7. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Whether it's Elagabalus or Caracalla seems to be the question and since I don't have any barbarous examples at all I'll guess it's Caracalla as you seem to think---but I wonder if it is a barbarous example or simply 'Provincial'.
     
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  8. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    It seems to me that this is the style of barbaric, but the previous author - Aniecintone probably knows better than me, and I believe him. Most likely it Elagabalus and a regular circulation of this coin…….
     
  9. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    The two coins you've asked about are NOT barbarous; they are provincial issues.
     
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  11. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    BMC specifically mentions that the difference between Caracalla and Elagabalus from Mesopotamia are often impossible to determine and that either attribution could be correct.
     
  12. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Many years ago I collected the coins of Carrhae and had acquired some 70 coins. I came to the conclusion that the small ae coins with the KO(L) MH KAP reverse legend were minted during the reign of Elagabalus. I came to this conclusion because many featured obverse portraits wearing a radiate crown but were not bearded. Stylistically the small laureate aes as well as the radiate aes seem to form a homogeneous group. I do not have these coins anymore. Around 2003 I visited a friend who collected Mesopotamian coins and we did a lot of trading.
     
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  13. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    Here is another, apparently, a silver coin of Mesopotamian from the same old collection of coins 6 or 7, which I bought.


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