Capped Bust Half, which variety?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by non_cents, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Hi folks,

    Picked up this Bustie from ebay early this week. Shame about the graffiti, but I still think it is a nice-looking coin. Checking PCGS photograde, I think it grades a high XF based on the details of the hair curls (especially above the forehead).
    Does anyone have any info on which variety this may be? It has a slightly rotated reverse and what is either die cracks or scratches or gouges below the bust on the obverse.

    Thanks,

    Simon
     

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  3. CBJesse

    CBJesse Capped Bust Fanactic

    I'm coming up with o-120. Is there a die crack atop STATES? It's kind of hard to see in the picture.
     
  4. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    No die crack above STATES that I can see...
     
  5. CBJesse

    CBJesse Capped Bust Fanactic



    The o120 without the die crack atop UNITED STATES is an R5, and the o120 which has the die crack along the top of UNITED STATES is an R3. My only concern is what looks to be a die crack between the A and T of STATES. But if it is not and, that's just the picture then, nice R5, lucky! :mad: ;)
     
  6. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Argh...I think you might be right. Looks like a die crack. Does that mean it's an R3?
     

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  7. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Although I don't see anything above UNITED.
     
  8. CBJesse

    CBJesse Capped Bust Fanactic

    Well, the die cracks on the o120a is usually quite severe ( I attached a picture), so I'm not quite sure on this one. I wish I knew the answer to this one cause it's bugging me too. Hopefully someone who knows will jump in. But if it does turn out to be a o120a, that would make it an R3.
     

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  9. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    That is definitely the die crack, but my Third Edition Overton is showing the 120a (die crack) as an R4 and the normal 120 as an R3
     
  10. CBJesse

    CBJesse Capped Bust Fanactic

    Here is the right pic. Edgar Sounder's book (written in 2002) says its an R4, but the 4th Edition Overton and Glenn Peterson's book both list it as an R3.
     

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  11. CBJesse

    CBJesse Capped Bust Fanactic


    Correction, Edgar Sounder's RAG lists the o120 as R3 and o120a as an R4, but the 4th Edition Overton says that the o120 is an R5 and the o120a is an R3, which is what most online dealers seem to agree with.
     
  12. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Here is a pic of UNITED.
     

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  13. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Heritage has the 120a listed as an R4 is some cases and R3 in others, so it looks like it was updated to an R3. There seems to be a bunch of them around so an R3 looks more realistic.
     
  14. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    In your other picture with STATES in it, the crack running from the first T, across the top of the A, and then to the T, is a perfect match to the die crack. There is no question it is a 120a.
     
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  15. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Awesome, thanks. I'll put it down as R3 then.
     
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