Capped Bust Half opinions

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by NorthKorea, Oct 31, 2014.

  1. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Seller's photos, not mine, so sorry about the poor resolution. Anyway, I'm guessing overdipped 30-40 range, but seller is saying 50+ (Sheldon scale).

    I realize that the strikes were different through the years, but I don't know enough about the series to know what is weak strike v wear. In hand, I could tell by the luster and see if it's cleaned, etc, but from a low resolution photo? I'm somewhat at a loss.

    I tried using PCGS's Photograde for comparison, but the problem is, of course, the lack of late-date CBHs in their library.
     

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  3. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    XF details, cleaned based on rough surfaces.
     
  4. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Exactly, clearly XF and surfaces look funny
     
  5. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Here is an 1836 PCGS 50 (courtesy Heritage) and I think yours is at least comparable to it. Cleaning would not surprise me, but I cannot tell for sure.

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  6. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Thanks for the input.
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I'd put it at XF due to what I perceive as 'wear' on the eagles wings on the reverse........
     
  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    That's an AU all day.
     
  9. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Looks like a problem coin to me, but I don't know why.
     
  10. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I'm curious on how this would be the case? The AU50 PCGS example clearly shows less high-point obverse wear than the coin in the original post, and the reverse wear is substantial enough that it'd be in the VF range. If I had to split grade the coin, I would be in the:

    45 Obv / 30 Rev range, which is how I settled on 30-40 range net, since I wasn't sure how severely the wear on the banner impairs the grade. Even beyond that, the surfaces look cleaned/polished from that photo.
     
  11. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    It doesn't really matter if it's a good XF or a low-end AU coin as it looks cleaned. If the OP provided better pictures we could say more about the surfaces.
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    45 probably cleaned.
     
  13. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    The coin is over-lit so I would recommend not putting too much stock in interpretation of its surfaces.
     
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  14. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I can't provide better pictures. As I said, that's the seller's picture, not mine.
     
  15. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    You could ask the seller to provide better pics. Raw + bad pics = problems
     
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2014
  16. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I thought it would be easier to motivate the seller to post better pics if I wasn't the only one who thought the coin looked details VF/XF range. I just messaged him.
     
  17. josh's coins

    josh's coins Well-Known Member

    This is the easiest way for me to give you pictures.
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    AU50 Natural Toning
     
  18. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Why are you unable to take larger/higher res photos?
     
  19. josh's coins

    josh's coins Well-Known Member

    I don't have the equipment just yet.
     
  20. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Based on new photos, I'd say XF details - cleaned, retoned, mottled.
     
  21. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Josh, if you think it's a problem-free AU, why not get it graded? I would also check the O variety, you never know...
     
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