Can You Spot The Fake Ancient(s)?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by HandsomeToad, Mar 7, 2009.

  1. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Howdy peeps, :)

    I'm not an ancient collector but I dew like to dabble in them but some time ago, a seller in the UK purchased a mould for ancient counterfeits and unfortunately we didn't save the pics from the auction to use for a reference for future ancients the seller offered and considering this seller knowingly sells fake California Gold Fractionals as authentic (Mike Locke has messaged him many times, as have others), and has made a bundle off them, we suspect he will/is sell/ing fake ancients too.

    - - - - insert theme song from Mission Impossible here - - - -

    So your job, should you accept, is to browse his ancients currently being offered, to see if you can spot any fakes, then report your findings back here. :thumb:

    http://coins.shop.ebay.com/items/Coins-Ancient__W0QQ_catrefZ1QQ_flnZ1QQ_sacatZ4733QQ_ssnZsaxbysQ2dcoinsQQ_trksidZp3911Q2ec0Q2em282

    Are you up to the task? :whistle:

    Ribbit :)

    Ps: Just so no one questions whether I told the truth about the CGF's, here are his current listings:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/1858-U-S-A-California-1-2-Dollar-22k-Gold-Coin-VF-Rare_W0QQitemZ220369267138

    http://cgi.ebay.com/1858-U-S-A-California-1-2-Dollar-22k-Gold-Coin-VF-Rare_W0QQitemZ220372319699

    And here are some completed auctions:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/1858-U-S-A-California-1-2-Dollar-22k-Gold-Coin-VF-Rare_W0QQitemZ220363733356

    http://cgi.ebay.com/1858-U-S-A-California-1-2-Dollar-22k-Gold-Coin-VF-Rare_W0QQitemZ360131323126


    They aren't even solid gold and he's sold hundreds of them and Ebay won't do anything about it! :goof:

    As to his completed auctions of ancients, look at these:

    http://completed.shop.ebay.com/merc...Z1QQ_ipgZ50QQ_sinceZ15QQ_sopZ12?_rdc=1&_rdc=2

    Be sure to scroll through his entire backlog of auctions, to see the ones that are repeatedly sold and ask yourself that simple question . . . where does he get all of these from? :goof:
     
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  3. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    yeah, take a look at the denarius of vespasian
     
  4. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    Lesse

    Hadrian
    Valerian I
    Roman republican

    I chose not to look past the first page. And only did a quick scim.



    stainless
     
  5. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    tetrdrachms too
     
  6. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

  7. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    I'm currently compiling a list of repeat sellers (same coin sold more than once) to post, so as to make it a little easier. I think the time has come to take this scammer out, so if we organize this properly, I think we can do it. ;)

    Ribbit :)

    Ps: Maybe it would be easier if you report what is authentic, instead of what's fake? ;)
     
  8. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    This is a short list but it should put things into perspective:


    Already sold:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/205-A-D-Roman-Silver-Denarius-Coin-Septimus-severus-VF_W0QQitemZ220364335897

    Currently selling:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/205-A-D-Roman-Silver-Denarius-Coin-Septimus-severus-VF_W0QQitemZ360134951359

    http://cgi.ebay.com/205-A-D-Roman-Silver-Denarius-Coin-Septimus-severus-VF_W0QQitemZ360136574386


    Already sold:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/222-A-D-Severus-Alexander-Roman-Silver-Denarius-Coin-VF_W0QQitemZ220369008769

    http://cgi.ebay.com/222-A-D-Severus-Alexander-Roman-Silver-Denarius-Coin-VF_W0QQitemZ360131055365

    http://cgi.ebay.com/222-A-D-Severus-Alexander-Roman-Silver-Denarius-Coin-VF_W0QQitemZ360132976569

    Currently selling:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/222-A-D-Severus-Alexander-Roman-Silver-Denarius-Coin-VF_W0QQitemZ360134905345

    http://cgi.ebay.com/222-A-D-Severus-Alexander-Roman-Silver-Denarius-Coin-VF_W0QQitemZ360136385280


    Already sold:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/280-A-D-Probus-Augustus-Antoninianus-Roman-Coin-VF_W0QQitemZ360133059749

    Currently selling:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/280-A-D-Probus-Aug-Silver-Antoninianus-Roman-Coin-VF_W0QQitemZ220369125900


    Already sold:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Finest-350-AD-Romulus-Remus-Bronze-Ae3-Roman-Coin-EF_W0QQitemZ360134170759

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Finest-350-AD-Romulus-Remus-Bronze-Ae3-Roman-Coin-EF_W0QQitemZ220367237788

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Finest-350-AD-Romulus-Remus-Bronze-Ae3-Roman-Coin-EF_W0QQitemZ220364891281

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Finest-350-AD-Romulus-Remus-Bronze-Ae3-Roman-Coin-EF_W0QQitemZ360131043079

    Currently selling:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Finest-350-AD-Romulus-Remus-Bronze-Ae3-Roman-Coin-EF_W0QQitemZ220369265830

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Finest-350-AD-Romulus-Remus-Bronze-Ae3-Roman-Coin-EF_W0QQitemZ360135858611

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Finest-350-AD-Romulus-Remus-Bronze-Ae3-Roman-Coin-EF_W0QQitemZ360134173114

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Finest-350-AD-Romulus-Remus-Bronze-Ae3-Roman-Coin-EF_W0QQitemZ360134172039

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Finest-350-AD-Romulus-Remus-Bronze-Ae3-Roman-Coin-EF_W0QQitemZ220367234252

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Finest-350-AD-Romulus-Remus-Bronze-Ae3-Roman-Coin-EF_W0QQitemZ360134168152

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Finest-350-AD-Romulus-Remus-Bronze-Ae3-Roman-Coin-EF_W0QQitemZ360126418702


    Ribbit :)
     
  9. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    All I know is that Fractional gold piece with the bear is a copy , I don't know if it was an early copy or even if it's 22k gold , I know nothing about ancients .
    rzage
     
  10. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Mike Locke informed me a long time ago that it's gold plated brass at best. :hammer: The seller has sold so many since then, it's pathetic and many reports have gone into Ebay but we have been ignored. :(

    Ribbit :)
     
  11. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    Arghh! Why wont eBay do anything! :(
     
  12. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    What did you name Tiny? :D

    Ribbit :)
     
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