Can you believe this eBay auction!!

This coin is properly labelled as the doctored "coin" that it is and it is still selling for $150+!!

PCGS boddy-bagged it as "two halves combined" and this guy "still can't see it" but the funny part is that even from his mediocre pictures it is obvious that the obverse is is a G/VG and that the reverse is XF/AU.

How blind is this guy to have thought it was going to be a good idea to have sent this coin to PCGS. At least he has the integrity to be honest about the coin having been doctored.

 

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ugh, it's up to $180 now!!

Who would pay that much!

 

wow... what people will spend their money on.

 

some people actually collect counterfits

 

hopefully with the intent NOT to dupe someone else!!

 

s vdb

I don't understand the two halves combined? Do the think somebody put the front of a 1909 s on the reverse of a 1909 philly vdb? Also does'nt PCGS bodybag anything that isn't uncirculated?

 

I guess there are some doofus collectors out there

 

Yep, that's exactly what happened. The obvious evidence is the vastly different levels of wear on the obverse and reverse halves.

nope, as long as the coinis identifyableand it isn't damaged, excessively cleaned, altered, or counterfeit, then PCGS will slab and grade it, regardless of it's grade.

 

I wouldn't see the joinder line either, even under 200x, unless I looked at the third side (which he conveniently doesn't show us.)

 

that aint right

 

I've seen these before and it's usually the same thing,a worn obverse because 1909s is a relatively pricey coin and a nicer reverse because 1909vdb is still relatively cheap.

 

Hi,
I've seen others like this before. IF this is a fake, there is no seam on the edge. These would be put together the same way that they make novelty "Magician's Coins". The 1909 S obverse is machined to allow the V.D.B. reverse to be tucked into it. The seam is actually around the rim of the reverse, very difficult to detect in the scan but it will be there if closely examined. You wont see a line around the edge.
Have Fun,
Bill

 

.body bags

Thats good to know, So do they just bag Altered or damaged coins then?

 

I have sold a few fake coins..they went for less than $10...but maybe since the one side of the coin is a key date (09-S) maybe that would make it go up a little....
Mine were a 1931-S cent and a 1914-P cent....

Speedy

 

Look at the other items he is selling...
http://cgi.ebay.com/1916-D-body-bag...ryZ41091QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I wonder if PCGS really did BB these coins...I have always heard that they put a grade with the coin and a reason for not slabbing it..well...on this coin they put a grade as MS FB...and this coin is G at best I think....

Speedy

 

Sounds like a good coin to buy slabbed.

You’d think, though, that if someone had the skills to carve (grind, mill, hog out) out a layer on one side of a copper coin, cut away all but a thin layer from a second coin, and then insert the second piece into the first piece, with both cut rims exactly prescribing a circle of the same diameter, etc.; that opening a sealed plastic slab and replacing its genuine coin with a bogus coin and then resealing that slab undetected would be a relatively trivial matter.

Or not.

 

Of course, if someone actually perfected the technique, there woudn't be a big incentive to brag about it, and there wouldn't be any other way to know.

 

It's unfortunate in this hobby that we have to be so suspicious of coins and always on the lookout for 'bad coins'. I wonder what the collector to 'crook' ratio is sometimes, or maybe there's just a lot of bad coins out there being recirculated....If folks are willing to fake $500 coins, how many fake American Gold Eagle bullion coins are out there? Who measures them and weighs them?....