Can someone please explain this error on Ebay?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Omegaraptor, Oct 28, 2015.

  1. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

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  3. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Potentially some Mint employee creating a rarity?
     
  4. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    That's an interesting error, but I do wonder what the seller paid for it? Probably a bit shy of their $199,500 asking price.
     
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  5. Sullysullinburg

    Sullysullinburg Well-Known Member

    Hey wasn't that Dear John movie about this coin? Like a penny struck on a nickel planchet or something. I haven't seen the movie in a while.
     
  6. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    Not for 199,500 !
     
  7. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

  8. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Without some help, this sort of thing is impossible. That puts this "error" squarely in the realm of "intentionally manufactured so-called rarity," and thus is pretty much worthless, in my opinion. There are many impossible errors that fall into this same category, throughout many eras of the mint.
     
  9. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I agree and wish that the TPG listed it as you mentioned.
     
  10. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I wish TPG's treaded these like other deliberate fakes, those coins we call "counterfeit."
     
  11. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    But it's not a fake or counterfeit coin? It originated from the US mint, someone just had an inside hand in creating it. That doesn't make it any less authentic an item.
     
  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Yes it originated at the US mint but not as an item produced with any kind or authority. Coins are produced under legal authority, patterns are produced on orders from an authorized source, mint errors are produced unintentionally during production runs of authorized coinage. This thing was produced deliberately with by someone with no authority to do so.

    Of course the problem with this "definition" is that some things that are highly desired in the hobby fall under the same definition. The 1913 V Nickel, and lot of so called "patterns".
     
  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I'm guessing we subscribe to different definitions of "authentic." :)
     
  14. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    When I read debates like these I think of the 1913 liberty nickel. If deliberate and without authority is the benchmark then where do those 5 fall in the argument?
     
  15. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    They fall into a grey area somewhere in-between. They were made at the mint, but they weren't supposed to be made. Some collectors accept them, some don't.

    I think they are curios, and certainly not worth anywhere near what they fetch.
     
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