Can anyone recommend any good books on Large cents other then Newcomb

Does anyone know of any good books that show pics of the many different Newcomb varieties?

I know that "united states copper cents" by Howard Newcomb is the "best" but it is VERY complicated.

Does anyone know if they have any books floating around that would help to more accurately attribute die states in a similar way the "cherry pickers guide" illustrates the Fivaz + Stanton numbers?

Any Help would be appreciated!

 

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The Collection of Dan Holmes which was auctioned by Larry & Ira Goldberg and prepared in four volume catalogs. I have volume 3 , which is large cent errors.

 

Try this link http://www.eacs.org/books.html.

 

I believe you can buy all 4 volumes of the Dan Holmes sale from the Goldberg's http://www.goldbergcoins.com/. I believe it is $100 (but I could be wrong . If you are a large cent person, this is a superb reference.

 

what about Breen's book on large cents?

 

Thanks. I purchased the Hardbound deluxe volume 3 Large Cent Errors, by itself intentionally.

 

It's a great book that has a few photo errors, but it covers the Sheldon varieties not the Newcomb varieties.

My personal preference on the middle dates is The Cent Book by John Wright. For the late date Newcomb varieties you've got to get Attribution Guide to United States Large cents 1840 to 1857 by Robert Grellman. You will find that the late dates will still be difficult. There just is no easy way to do them. there are no photos in Grellman, just diagrams. The details you are looking for are often to small or too fine to show up in photos.

 

IMO:

Early Dates: Noyes
Middle Dates: Noyes and/or Wright
Late Dates: Grellman

 

Thanks very much! I did pick noyes 2 volume book set. That looked like the best choice even though the price is pretty high.

I liked grellman for large cents 1840-57 but it does not look like they point out the differences between the die varieties too well. Does anyone know of a more idiot friendly book that is a little less complicated?

 

Not for the late dates. Like I said there is no easy way to do them. Grellman is the best book out there. The only two other works on the late dates that I know of are Andrews from 1883, and Newcomb from 1944. Andrews would be expensive, no photos. Newcomb based his work on Andrews Still no good pictures and a lot of errors. Grellman in my opinion is much better than either one.

 

Conder is correct. It is simply the nature of the beast -- and Grellman is as good as you're going to get. The differences between varieties are often so minute that attribution is extremely tedious and often comes down to how the date is placed on the die.

My head hurts just thinking about attributing late dates. lol

 

First, you have to narrow it down to the Early Dates (1793-1814), Middle Dates (1816-1839) or Late Dates (1840-1857). Since the Early dates are usually identified by Sheldon numbers and you mention Newcomb varieties, You are likely to be interested in Middle Dates or Late Dates. John Wright's The Cent Book or Noyes second volume of his pair of books are good for middle dates. Grellman's book is good for late dates. Type these names and Large Cent into your browser and you should find them without much problem, though they are usually quite pricey.

 

Thanks guy! I went with Mr. Grellman's book for late date, and noys for mid dates. Your opinions are fairly consistent with the rest of the web. It is nice to see such accurate info given. Thank you all for you help!