Can anyone give me more info about this Roman bronze??

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by AdamL, Oct 22, 2006.

  1. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    These pics are very low quality, even for my scanner. But I think you can tell what they are. I bought several of these roman bronze coins at a show yesterday. I know Constantine is on the front. Can anyone tell me what is on the back? It looks like a man dragging another man by his head to me. Also, about how old are these coins?? 400 A.D. or so???
    Thanks.
     

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  3. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Looks like Constantine II from about 337-340 AD. The reverse is maybe a soldier leading a child, or the emperor leading a captive.

    Ben
     
  4. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    I think it's Valens..like this one
    Valens AE3. AD 367- 370. D N VALEN-S P F AVG, Diademed bust right, draped & cuirassed / GLORIA RO-MANORVM, Emperor walking right with head turned back while grasping bound captive at the top of the head & holding Chi-Rho tipped banner
    Looks like Siscia mint (BSISC)
     

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  5. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys. Yes, that looks very similar Mikjo0. But, are you saying it is not Constantine II?? The ancient bargain bin I got them out of was labeled "Constantine".
    ???

    Also, I'm curious, does anyone know how ancient people made their coins?
     
  6. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Go with Mike, he's VASTLY more accurate when it comes to IDing these ;)

    take Care
    Ben
     
  7. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    Adam,
    I'm positive.
    All the letters of the inscription fall right into place.If you look closely at your coin photos,you can see where these are placed.I've drawn over them in red to show approximately how they are laid out. ..Roman style with spaces and word placement wherever it was convenient.
    DNVALEN SPFAVG
    GLORIARO MANORVM BSISC
    As to your question about production,maybe this will help.
    "With very few exceptions, namely mould-cast coins (Spain, Italy), all ancient Greek, Roman and Byzantine coins were struck. The flans (or blanks) were normally produced by casting or were cut from moulded rods and then they were hammered between an immobile and a mobile die, which were made of a harder metal (e.g. iron). When the flan was large it was usually heated before the striking (‘sheet-shaped’ and ‘flattened’ coins). Struck coins were produced until quite recent times, when the use of automatic presses became widespread. The shape and thickness of coins varied from era to era and depended on the degree of perfection of the production method"
     

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  8. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    Thanks again Mikjo0. After doing a little internet research of my own, I have confirmed your info.
     
  9. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    For what it's worth,Constantine II coins are much more common (and inexpensive) than those of Valens...so you did good.:)
    By the way,I just happen to have the same coin except it was minted in Thessalonica.
     

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  10. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    One more question for you.

    OK. I have two more coins, which I think are the same, but I'm not sure. Can you tell if these are the same designs, and from the same mint?
    Thanks.

    Again, sorry about the terrible scans.
     

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  11. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    They are both Valens coins of the same type as your other one.I can't tell the mint on the first one but the second looks like Thessalonica with the TES mark.(a slight variation from mine)
     

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  12. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    Thanks so much Mikjo0! I was wanting to know everything about these coins, because I'm going to give one of them to a good freind who is a big history guy, and I wanted to have as much info about the coin I give him as possible. Thanks for your expertize..
     
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