Can a planchent rotate at strike?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Tin_Man_0, Feb 26, 2019.

  1. Tin_Man_0

    Tin_Man_0 Active Member

    It looks like the plainchant rotated at the strike or something?

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  3. Pickin and Grinin

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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    No.. It's called a Planchet

    It didn't rotate. It's Mechanical Doubling.
    http://doubleddie.com/144822.html

    Considered worthless doubling and nothing to do with a true Doubled Die.
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    The only time a Planchet would rotate is if it didn't eject properly and it was struck again when it ended up withing the retaining collar and the 2 dies striking the coin. That would be known as a double strike within collar.
    Not the case with your Cent shown.
     
  6. Tin_Man_0

    Tin_Man_0 Active Member

    From reading that link, it's not the planchet that rotated. The die rotated. Correct?
     
  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    No.. It's more like a Die Chatter not rotation.. Think of taking a hammer and slamming it on a rock. There will be a tiny bounce with the hammer when you strike it.

    Now concerning a true Doubled Die variety..
    Just to make sure you know so I want to ask..
    A Doubled Die is not 2 strikes on a planchet. It is 1 Die with a Doubled image creating one Doubled Die Strike. You understand this?
     
  8. Tin_Man_0

    Tin_Man_0 Active Member

    Yes I do. Although I would think that for each double die variety found there would be thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of pennies out there that came off that one die. How come so few? Does the mint really care about a doubling on some pennies meant to be simple currency? would they really look that close and then decide to take a rather large amount of pennies back to be melted because of this minimal error? They don't seem to care much about all the other dozen types of disfiguring errors, like DDD.
     
  9. Tin_Man_0

    Tin_Man_0 Active Member


    And another question occurs to me. Since a tiny bounce of the die strike would cause this machine doubling and the second strike is not exactly when the previous strike was then I can only surmise that even though this is machine doubling, it is possible for the planchet to rotate as I expect that when said tiny bounce occurs of the striking die, the planchet will also levitate ever so slightly mid air like a pog. Not enough room to flip or turn, but it can rotate freely in mid air so long as it doesn't touch the collar again. Since we're talking microns and nano seconds here it obviously can't rotate by a whole lot. Am I off on any of that speculation?
     
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