Cameo Proof Washington

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  1. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Jack:
    Sorry, but are you asking is they photo-shopped the coin's image?
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That can be accomplished without manipulating or editing the pic. You just need to take the pic at the correct angle so as to maximize the contrast between the frosted devices and mirrored fields.

    You can see the same effect yourself with any cameo Proof. Just tilt the coin slowly in the light, when you reach the correct angle the black and white contrast is plain to see. Then all you have to do is capture the same image with a camera.
     
  5. AuSgPtHoarder

    AuSgPtHoarder Liker of Shiny Things

    I think the Black & White is helping bring out the contrast as well. Definitely best to use a tripod to find the angle GDJMSP is referring to and experiment until you find the angle and distance that works well. The trick is to do that without ending up with a slanted perspective from using too drastic of an angle.
     
  6. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator


    No, not at all. I meant special lighting or something like that. Like GDJMSP says, I can do it " in hand, by eye" but cannot capture the same effect on film.

    I asked seller same question, waiting for reply.
     
  7. codydude815

    codydude815 Wannabe coin dealer

    Florescent lights.
     
  8. LibertyBell

    LibertyBell New Member

    Shoot the coin straight on, but adjust the angle of the light.
     
  9. codydude815

    codydude815 Wannabe coin dealer

    Heres my examples of florescent shots. The first is a deep cameo quarter, the second is a franklin with barely any contrst.

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  10. DoubleDie

    DoubleDie Senior Member

    Find a some black cardboard (shoe box) or black construction paper, cut a hole just big enough for the camera to see the entire coin, put the camera setting on macro mode and take a picture with a very steady hand.

    Make sure, before you take the picture, that the fields look "black".
     
  11. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    The seller is a very well known poster on the PCGS forums, and I hold his auctions in the highest regard.

    However, you should know that the photographic technique he uses (he calles it "the lampshade method", which is essentially diffused radial lighting) makes the cameo/contrast on proof coins really pop more than they will in-hand. He has not manipulated the photo, but uses a lighting technique which results in the "look" you see -- and you can take that to the bank.

    If you are interested in the coin I say bid away, as Russ'/Compucheap's reuptuation as an ethical eBayer is almost without reporoach and he has a great return policy...Mike

    p.s. here's a coin from my collection photographed using the same technique:

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  12. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    p.s. if you'd like to experiement yourself do this:

    1) get a lampshade
    2) place a coin on the floor
    3) place the lampshade with the small end up over the coin
    4) place lights along the outside
    5) put the camera directly above the coin and pointed down from the top.
    6) viola

    Instead of a lampshade, you can use two pieces of white paper and some tape to make a paper cyllinder -- that's how I do it. Undersand that using a lampshade or paper will put a color cast on your photo which will need to be corrected either in-camera or in post processing.
     
  13. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    Yep, he's a great seller. :thumb: Here are some of mine...no photoshop whatsoever.

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  14. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    I've found it's best to have indirect light rather than direct when trying to capture cameo effects.
     
  15. codydude815

    codydude815 Wannabe coin dealer

    Dan, what camera do you use???
     
  16. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    Sony Cybershot DSC-V1.
     
  17. codydude815

    codydude815 Wannabe coin dealer

    Oh yeah, you told me that one time :p
     
  18. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator


    Now what do you do with the light? Shine from where and what watt bulbs or flourescent or whatever?

    I'll post a cpl of my efforts on my Cameo's after this

    THANKS !!
     
  19. codydude815

    codydude815 Wannabe coin dealer

    I use florescent for PL/DPL morgans and proofs.
     
  20. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    I use a regular desk lamp...shining from about a foot and a half away from the coin on it's northwest side--not directly on top or in front of it.
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Couple of things to remember, fluorescent bulbs tend to make your pics have a bluish cast. Regular incandescent bulbs make your pics have a yellowish cast. Either one can be adjusted for with proper camera settings, but it is much easier to just use GE Reveal bulbs and avoid the problem altogether ;)
     
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