Calling ALL error experts! 1940 DDO?

I have a 1940 wheat penny. I was looking pennies over for RPM and the "cracked skull" error when I came across what I believe may be a Double Die Obverse. The "W" just jumped out at me. There's (what appears to be) doubling on "IN God We Trust" & "Liberty". The "40" in 1940 also may be doubled. I rotated the coin and took pictures from different angels to help figure this out. Thanks for your help.

 

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I'm by far no expert but how about more pictures of the date and liberty. Thanks

 

here's a few more pic's. when looking at the "G" focus on the starting point of actually writing the letter G (there you'll see two G's). The "L" in Liberty and the "4"

 

im no expert either, but i really dont see anything, --sorry--bill

 

Looks like die deterioration. I don't see any die doubling effect.

Jim

 

You might want to check it against the -001, looks close.
http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1940&die_id=1940p1do001&die_state=mds

 

thank you Rockdude!! that's it!! mine looks just like it! i was beginning to wonder about myself! lol.. others couldn't see what i was seeing. i was working on putting arrows on the pictures to point to the doubling spots so you just saved me a ton of work! hehe. you're the bomb.

 

It does have a possibility of being the DDO that rockdude refers to.

The 9 in the date would be the dead giveaway. a picture of the 9 would clinch it, one way or the other.

Thanks,
Bill

 

Let's not jump the gun until a picture of the 9 is posted.

Thanks,
Bill

 

hi Bill,
ok, i went and took a pic of the 9. i posted two pic's of the 9. one pic is NOT edited, it's probably hard for others to see so i made a copy of it and edited it so it's easier for to spot.

 

woops, originally edited it in purple but didn't think it would show up.... here's the original:

 

original:

 

It does not appear to be DDO-001.

Keep in mind that when matching coins to coppercoins site, the coins have to be identical, in all ways, not just close, sorta, kinda

This coin is not 001, and that puts it back in the likely not a DDO category

Thanks,
Bll

 

It looks like 001 to me, that coppercoins link is a great comparator for this cent.

 

I think it is possible that you have found the 001 coin, but your coin appears to be worn more then the coin on coppercoins.com. It looks like you have a good camera/microscope setup, I would try looking for the die markers to see if your coin matches. The C in Cent on the reverse would be a good place to start. Hope you can confirm it, cool find if so! Good luck!

 

Looks like a perfect match to me. 001

 

here's your nine



Here's the one listed as a 001




No match.

 

Thanks Rockdude, I've been busy so I didn't get the chance to "close" this case, the way you did. The nines don't match. That's basically it.

 

I don't think it is 001 either but the photos on coppercoins are MDS. Looking at the photo of the "W" of the coin submitted - I see what maybe could be early state abrasion marks. The marks aren't from the reduction lathe but maybe original die polishing.

 

Once you have studied Class VI you will have no trouble.

Once you have studied Class VI you will have no trouble.
The best one is 1943-P DDO-001 but I have found 1944-P, D, and S, 1945-P, 1946-P Class VI doubled dies. Recently I think I found an 1989-D with this type doubling but a lessor degree to be sure. The key is the huge or extra thickness to the doubling - it's as if the letters got fat and rounded.
Bill is right - the coin in hand must look exactly like the know variety, not just sort of or close. That's the great thing about this study - every coin struck with that die (doublED die) will look the same except for die state and that's another disscussion altogether.
Remember this is exactly why it is called a doublED die and not "double die" - has nothing to do with when the coin was struck and everything to do with how the die was made.