CALIGULA portrait

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  1. PMONNEY

    PMONNEY Flaminivs

    Although many bronze coins display a portrait of Caligula (often tooled) this silver coin, in my opinion is probaby the most accurate...contenders invited ! Caligula.jpg
     
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  3. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    That is a nice example, do you have a reverse photo?
     
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Here's a contender for LEAST lifelike portrait of Caligula:

    Calligula and Caesonia.jpg
    Calligula AD 37-41
    Roman provincial Æ 28 mm, 11.17 gm
    Carthago Nova, Spain, AD 37-38
    Obv: C. CAESAR AVG. GERMANIC. IMP. P.M. TR.P. COS., laureate head of Caligula, right
    Rev: CN. ATEL. FLAC. CN. POM. FLAC. II. VIR. Q.V.I.N.C., head of Salus (some attribute to Caesonia, wife of Calligula) right, SAL AVG across field
    Refs: SGI 419; Heiss 272, 35; Cohen 247, 1; RPC 1, 185; SNG Cop 503.
     
  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    PMONNEY => congrats on scoring that cool OP-Caligula (total winner)

    Ummm, here is my humble AE contender ...


    caligula a.jpg caligula b.jpg
     
  6. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    i just happen to have an old photo of little boots taken just before his untimely demise..um...now where did i put that?!? well in any case, nice denarius, i only have humble ae as bronze and brass (not tooled) bronze and brass ae's of caligula 001.JPG bronze and brass ae's of caligula 003.JPG
     
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  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I recently made this post, describing two small provincial coins issues by Caligula in Philadelphia, Lydia...

    The first has our favorite sea-goat Capricornus, the goat that suckled the infant Zeus after he was rescued by his mother Rhea, from being devoured by his father Cronos. The goat's broken horn was transformed into the horn of plenty, or cornucopia. Capricornus is attested as far back as the 21st Century BC. (Ancient coins really aren't that ancient in the larger picture, are they?)

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    The second has a panther carrying a thrysus. What is a thyrsus and why would a panther be carrying one? Well I'm glad you asked. A thrysus is a staff of giant fennel, decorated with ivy leaves and topped by a pine cone. It is phallic in it's symbolism, the cone representing the the head of the penis and the seeds within representing fertility. The panther was one Dionysus' favorite rides, as in this ancient mosaic from Pella...

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    Dionysus was of course the god of extreme partying. and y'all know about Caligula already...

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    Caligula AD 37-41
    AE17, 3.6g, 12h; Philadelphia, Lydia. Magistrate Moschion Moschionos.
    Obv. ΓAIOY KAICAP; Bare head right.
    Rev. ΦIΛOKAICAP ΦIΛOΔЄΛΦЄWN MOCXIWN MOCXIWNOC; Capricorn left.
    Reference: RPC I, 3027.

    Caligula AD 37-41
    AE17, 2.1g, 1h; Philadelphia, Lydia. Magistrate Artemon, son of Hermogenos.
    Obv. ΓAIOC KAICAP ΓEPMANIKOC; Laureate head right.
    Rev. APTEMΩN EPMOΓENOVC NEOKAICAPEΩN; Panther walking right, head turned left, thyrsus over shoulder.
    Reference: RPC I, 3033.
     
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice portrait Caligula 4.jpg
     
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  9. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I have only one Caligula:

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    Gaius Caligula, AD 37-41
    Æ As, 29mm, 11.5g, 6h; Rome mint, AD 37-8
    Obv.: C CAESAR AVG GERMANICVS PON M TR POT, bare head left.
    Rev.: VESTA above, S C across field, Vesta, veiled and draped, seated left on ornamental throne, holding patera and long transverse scepter.


    While your portrait is very detailed @PMONNEY I don't like it. :oops: It looks "off" to me. I'm not crying fake or anything like that but it looks cartoon-y to me and I would have avoided it. :( Maybe its the style.
     
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have a very humble Caligula...

    RI Gaius Caligula AE As 37-41 CE Vesta seated S-C.jpg
    RI Gaius Caligula AE As 37-41 CE Vesta seated S-C
     
  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Dionysus, a panther, and a thyrsus, you say?

    Faustina Jr Anchialus Dionysos.jpg
    Faustina Jr., 147-175
    Roman provincial AE 9.06 gm; 24.7 mm
    Thrace, Anchialus, AD 147-175
    Obv: ΦΑVCΤΕΙΝΑ ΝΕΑ CΕΒΑCΤΗ, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
    Rev: ΑΓΧΙΑΛΕΩΝ, Dionysos standing left, holding cantharus and thyrsus; panther at feet, left.
    Refs: AMNG 434; Varbanov 90; BMC --; SNG Copenhagen --
     
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  12. alde

    alde Always Learning

    I would love to be able to get a Caligula denarius someday. Here's my only coin of him. Caligula AE As RIC 38.jpg
     
  13. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I love my bronze Caligula so much that I traded away a middling denarius. (This As is better in hand; I need to take a new photo.)

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  14. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    What did Gaius (Caligula) really look like?

    This is one of the portraits displayed by Wikipedia. The similarity to that displayed in his coins is certainly there.
    One can assume this is therefore his most 'likely likeness' (?)

    Below: my sestertius of Gaius Caligula.


    Gaius_Caesar_Caligula.jpg caligula sestertius-obv - 1.jpg Gaius Caligula Sestertius-Wreath-Rev-marble - 1.jpg
     
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  15. AngelDeath

    AngelDeath Well-Known Member

    Caligila.jpg This is what I think he looked like.
     
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  16. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Here is my poor example.

    GAIUS new.jpg
     
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  17. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    He looks like you butchered him
     
  18. AngelDeath

    AngelDeath Well-Known Member

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  19. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    In silver what I have for Caligula is a drachm from Caesarea, Cappodocia : 4-Caligula-drachmc-sm.jpg

    The use of Latin letters and text makes it look like a denarius.
     
  20. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    I've wondered about the accuracy of coin portraits for as long as I've been collecting ancients. The fundamental question is: how can anyone know how accurate a coin portrait might be?

    It's my understanding that coin portraits were based on busts/sculptures of the individual, but that raises the question of how accurate the busts/sculptures were.

    What about paintings of the emperors? Are there any known, verified paintings of the 12 Caesars?

    I'll admit that I haven't done any detailed research on this topic. Has anyone else delved into this topic in greater depth?
     
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  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I have never understood how we verify statues. Perhaps we compare them to coins??? I consider the Caligula in the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts a reasonable match for the Vesta asses.
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