hi all, i picked up this bull and horseman jital recently. i didn't know what it was, other than i knew it was not the one i and, it was pretty nice...and it was probably not they type the seller had it listed as. here it is.. looking at dougs page on the type, and a posting at world of coins that THC participated in, i think this is a type 44....a 12th century coin. i'm just going of the general shape of the legends and symbols...that i can't really read. also, i can see part of the legend on the right of the obverse, which that type has and many others don't seem to. any input would be welcome, but i think @dougsmit and @THCoins know if i'm barking up the right tree or not. feel free to show off your bull and horseman jitals!
I see it as a Tye 44, a 12th century coin. The significant legend is the mno just right of the horseman's face. Your coin has a bit more of the squiggle I was calling o (from its shape not meaning) compared to mine on my page but mine has a lot of legend along the right edge that most coins lack. None of these have the full detail on all edges and both sides. I wish I could read them but I just compare to images in references.
I agree: Tye 44; Deyell 187ff. Both Tye and Deyell read the inscription on the horseman side as Sri A/ nanga Pala Devah (Ananga Pala, c. 1130-1145). The inscription on the bull side is the generic Sri Samanta Deva. Deyell calls the dynasty "Tomaras of Dhillika (Delhi)". Tye refers to them simply as "Delhi Rajas". Personally, i always prefer the more exotic-sounding names!
Agree with Ananga Pala Deva, Tye#44. As you probably read on WoC there is some discussion possible on the legend. In front of the Bull is Nagari "Cha". The legend on the Horseman side begins with "Sri A / NanGa PaLa DeVa", but on many specimen it is visible that there are some other characters after this. Dyell read it as "Sri A / NanGa PaLa DeVa Ji". Another option would be to read it as "Sri A / NanGa PaLa DeVa RaJa". Here one of mine, specially selected for the presence of the end part of the legend:
Pretty cool pickup, chrsmat .... I don't have one of these jital-babies => hey, maybe Sri A Claus will bring me one?
The horse that ran away went over to his own coin. No bull on other side. Some of the later bulls like THCoins' require just a bit of training to recognize the animals. There are a lot of Jitals! The biggest problem I see with them is the dies were usually twice the size of the flans so you need two-four of each one to show the type. Well centered coins lose the left, the right, top and bottom. That makes THCoins' off center Tye 44 such a magnificent specimen with the super clear legend at the right. His 117 has the bull horns (obverse left touching the beaded border). These are not coins for people who want it all on one flan. Yildiz, Ghurids, 1212-1214 AD Tye 201
But that makes them even more of a challenge and fun. Some more examples: - Try to make out the head of the horse. (Narwar Rajas, Malaya Varma Deva, Tye#56): - This bull has been brandmarked to show its origin (Ghazna, Tye#294): - Find the bull (Ghaznavid, Kushraw Malik Tye#119): And since i'm Dutch (we are more on the penny than the Scots): all these coins are dirt cheap if you look around a bit !
excellent, thanks for comments and thanks for you help everyone! i would still like to get some of the later jitals like you've posted here...that type 294 is ...well, "cute".
