BU ? 1943/2 War Nickel

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  1. jaxsdad

    jaxsdad Curmudgeon Collector

    I was wondering if anyone would give me their opinion on the grade of this overdate-
    It came in one of those premade sets with the white cardboard insert & plastic sleeve-
    I think it looks uncirculated & thats why Im asking-:cool:
    Thanks-
     

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  3. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I'd call it an AU-55. It appears there is some wear on the highest points of the hair and on the portico of Monticello.
     
  4. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Hard to tell from the photo if that is wear or a weak strike. Check those areas for a break in luster.
     
  5. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    I'll give it an AU50. The obverse has slight wear as already noted and the reverse seems to have alot of little scratches and light wear along with whatever is going on with the "S" in "Pluribus".
     
  6. DJP7x0s

    DJP7x0s Sometimes Coins Arouse Me

    I still dont see what everyone is looking at to see a 3 over 2. I just dont see it, but Ive kind of been being quiet waiting for someone else to say something about it. Am I missing it???
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Sorry, but NOT the overdate.
    I have cherried a number of them, and that isn't one of them.
    There is mention of one (1943 P) with a die crack at the date that is misleading, and that isn't it either.
    I had to tell a dealer at a coin show recently that his overdate wasn't one either.
    Further study by him confirmed it.
     
  8. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Howdy,
    I'm sorry but I must agree with Frank. These are gret pic's though, and they show the die crack great!!

    Speedy
     
  9. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Still, a very beautiful coin man. :thumb: Great luster, I give it a AU-55.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  10. jaxsdad

    jaxsdad Curmudgeon Collector


    Darn - I thought I had scored big :headbang:- Thanks for the info
     
  11. Coinlover

    Coinlover The Coin Collector

    its nice to see some high grade war nickels after seeing all the old circulated ones i have. i don't think thats a 3/2 though. still a very nice nickel! :kewl:
     
  12. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

  13. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Well I thought I had already uploaded these to VN but I guess I hadn't.
    Here is some close up shots of a true 43/2. As you can also see---the 1 shows some doubling as well.
     

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  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    As Speedy's pictures show, there has to be a horizontal bar remnant at the bottom (inside) of the 3.
    Also, the diagonal is thicker.

    Jim:
    Yours should look like Speedy's pictures, or consider suing PCGS & NGC.

    A side story:
    From about 1973 to about 1975 I showed a strange 1943 war nickel to a bunch of coin dealers on Long Island (NY).
    I thought that it appeared to be a 3/2.
    Everyone told me that it was not an overdate, since there was no such thing listed.
    Due to various moves and events beyond my control, I no longer have that coin, but we all know... the rest of the story.
     
  15. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Frank, not in the business of suing here. I have seen the 43/2 as shown by speedy many times. What can explain what the OP has? Later die variety? Some of the die has worn off? Die Crack?


    Not disputing what anyone is saying here as I am not an expert, simply wanting to clarify things in my head so I might be able to retain it.

    Thanks for the close ups Speedy.
     
  16. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Yes it is a Die Crack. The placement of this die crack has missed up lots of dealers and collectors. If you see something like what the OP posted, check out the 3 for the lower part of the 2, then if you can check out the other numbers and letters for doubling. On the real 1943/2 there is doubling on other parts, but with the die crack everything else is normal.

    I think the 3 and the 1 show the doubling the best and that is why I posted those pic's....but some of the other letters also show slight doubling.

    Speedy
     
  17. jaxsdad

    jaxsdad Curmudgeon Collector

    Not that Im doubting you guys but - it appears to me that the 1 ,3 & 4 have doubling & there is what looks like a horizontal line that I put an arrow above that looks like part of the 2 -
     

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  18. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Can you get a better photo of the 3....kindof looking like the 3 that I posted...with the light pointing more the other direction. With the pic's you posted I sure don't see the horizontal line...and the line up from the point of the 3, looks more like a die crack.

    Speedy
     
  19. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Just a thought---do you see any doubling on LIBERTY, or IN GOD WE TRUST???
    It kindof looks like the FS# 5c-029, but I'm not totally sure.

    Speedy
     
  20. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Here is a closer look.

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  21. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Jim,
    I think your is an overdate!---and I'm hoping that I'm wrong about the OP's coin. Sometimes the way the pic' is taken the light doesn't show all of the die markings.

    Speedy
     
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